nbg wrote: ↑Fri Aug 11, 2023 1:59 pm
A couple of pics to contrast the oyster style and new consort bracelets.
The new consort certainly opens up the opportunity for people with a wrist of less than say 6.75” to wear the Sealanders on a bracelet, without having a clasp that dominates.
I’ve put this bracelet in then taken it out of the cart multiple times now. This post might push me to complete the sale. Thank you for the comparison pics.
One of the appeals of the original Bader bracelet was the taper to 16mm. This was offset however by the huge clasp. Looks like with the Consort the taper really comes through. It looks to be a perfect match with the smaller 36mm Sealander.
@NationOfLaws, great photo! That looks really good. Are you happy with it?
nbg wrote: ↑Fri Aug 11, 2023 1:59 pm
A couple of pics to contrast the oyster style and new consort bracelets.
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Regardless of the point that I am basically comfortable with the longer clasp on the Aquitaine, I still think that it is out of proportion for the 36mm Sealander models and potentially the 39mm ones.
The new consort certainly opens up the opportunity for people with a wrist of less than say 6.75” to wear the Sealanders on a bracelet, without having a clasp that dominates.
And a final pic…
Loose screw alert!
Fortunately I noticed that the screw was not secured. And no I didn’t loosen it. It arrived like that.
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Neil
This is interesting. The clasp doesn't look nearly as big in the second picture as it does in the first on your wrist. Some verification on whether or not the Bader clasp has been shortened (it appears that it has) would also be good.
Life is not a matter of holding good cards, but sometimes, playing a poor hand well. Jack London
nbg wrote: ↑Fri Aug 11, 2023 1:59 pm
A couple of pics to contrast the oyster style and new consort bracelets.
The new consort certainly opens up the opportunity for people with a wrist of less than say 6.75” to wear the Sealanders on a bracelet, without having a clasp that dominates.
I’ve put this bracelet in then taken it out of the cart multiple times now. This post might push me to complete the sale. Thank you for the comparison pics.
One of the appeals of the original Bader bracelet was the taper to 16mm. This was offset however by the huge clasp. Looks like with the Consort the taper really comes through. It looks to be a perfect match with the smaller 36mm Sealander.
@NationOfLaws, great photo! That looks really good. Are you happy with it?
Another pic for you Drew, to show the bracelets alongside each other.
Stating the obvious…
Whether someone obtains a good fit with the consort will be a lottery, given that the only adjustment is to add or subtract 6.5mm at a time. For some that will take it from too tight, to too loose. For me it is ok. The bracelet is approximately 2mm tighter than I would wear an equivalent Oyster style. However adding a link would be too much.
The solution is either cut out a few carbs to slightly reduce wrist size (albeit not much scope as I don’t have a wrist that is too fleshy (fat) or bulk the wrist by eating too many Pringles.
Neil
The alternative would be for CW to include a couple of smaller 2/3rd links. I think this would make a significant difference.
Neil
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nbg wrote: ↑Fri Aug 11, 2023 1:59 pm
A couple of pics to contrast the oyster style and new consort bracelets.
CEFACE33-5B76-4A75-B54C-43CCA157B544.jpeg41D37BCB-041C-441E-BA0A-AB7D3E4DC111.jpeg
Regardless of the point that I am basically comfortable with the longer clasp on the Aquitaine, I still think that it is out of proportion for the 36mm Sealander models and potentially the 39mm ones.
The new consort certainly opens up the opportunity for people with a wrist of less than say 6.75” to wear the Sealanders on a bracelet, without having a clasp that dominates.
And a final pic…
Loose screw alert!
Fortunately I noticed that the screw was not secured. And no I didn’t loosen it. It arrived like that.
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Neil
This is interesting. The clasp doesn't look nearly as big in the second picture as it does in the first on your wrist. Some verification on whether or not the Bader clasp has been shortened (it appears that it has) would also be good.
Rich I don’t think that I did lengthen or shorten between the draped over wrist and sideways shots. Where I normally have the micro set only varies between no adjustment and two clicks out, which at least means that the moveable link doesn’t really add to the length of the clasp.
At most it was 2 out on the back of the wrist and fully closed on the sideways view.
nbg wrote: ↑Fri Aug 11, 2023 3:48 pm
Another pic for you Drew, to show the bracelets alongside each other.
This is perfect, thank you! I was about to ask if you could take a photo like this or send me a short video showing the bracelet as if hugs your wrist.
Again, this is likely to push me to complete the sale.
nbg wrote: ↑Fri Aug 11, 2023 3:57 pm
Rich I don’t think that I did lengthen or shorten between the draped over wrist and sideways shots. Where I normally have the micro set only varies between no adjustment and two clicks out, which at least means that the moveable link doesn’t really add to the length of the clasp.
At most it was 2 out on the back of the wrist and fully closed on the sideways view.
Neil
It was more a comment in just how visually different they looked. Not that there was any physical difference. I took it that everything remained constant between the two images. It just goes to show that an experience with a photo and experience on the wrist are two different things.
I am not sure 2/3rd links would be possible with these. The screws alone are 2.8mm (1.4mm x 2 holes). Given they are only 6.5mm that might be cutting it very close on the tolerances. You might get down to 5.5mm without too much trouble but from there I think it would be getting tough. The only other solutions would be to make some sort of micro adjustment in the butterfly (has this been done?) or go with the shorter Bader clasp.
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nbg wrote: ↑Fri Aug 11, 2023 3:48 pm
Another pic for you Drew, to show the bracelets alongside each other.
This is perfect, thank you! I was about to ask if you could take a photo like this or send me a short video showing the bracelet as if hugs your wrist.
Again, this is likely to push me to complete the sale.
Thanks, Neil.
I don't know if you watched it or not but I did include a wrist roll video in my initial post mostly for this purpose.
Life is not a matter of holding good cards, but sometimes, playing a poor hand well. Jack London
nbg wrote: ↑Fri Aug 11, 2023 3:48 pm
Another pic for you Drew, to show the bracelets alongside each other.
This is perfect, thank you! I was about to ask if you could take a photo like this or send me a short video showing the bracelet as if hugs your wrist.
Again, this is likely to push me to complete the sale.
Thanks, Neil.
I don't know if you watched it or not but I did include a wrist roll video in my initial post mostly for this purpose.
I did, and it was useful! But as that was a bigger Sealander, I was also curious about how it would look with a smaller 36mm.
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nbg wrote: ↑Fri Aug 11, 2023 1:59 pm
A couple of pics to contrast the oyster style and new consort bracelets.
The new consort certainly opens up the opportunity for people with a wrist of less than say 6.75” to wear the Sealanders on a bracelet, without having a clasp that dominates.
I’ve put this bracelet in then taken it out of the cart multiple times now. This post might push me to complete the sale. Thank you for the comparison pics.
One of the appeals of the original Bader bracelet was the taper to 16mm. This was offset however by the huge clasp. Looks like with the Consort the taper really comes through. It looks to be a perfect match with the smaller 36mm Sealander.
@NationOfLaws, great photo! That looks really good. Are you happy with it?
I think it’s a winner, so long as you’re ok with a different fit than what you get with the Bader bracelet. I have it just a little loose so I can swell into it over the humid summer days we have. I think it looks really nice, though, and so the trade off seems worth it to me. I like the bracelet enough that it has me contemplating a non-GMT Sealander.
All sized up and on the watch.
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nbg wrote: ↑Fri Aug 11, 2023 3:57 pm
Rich I don’t think that I did lengthen or shorten between the draped over wrist and sideways shots. Where I normally have the micro set only varies between no adjustment and two clicks out, which at least means that the moveable link doesn’t really add to the length of the clasp.
At most it was 2 out on the back of the wrist and fully closed on the sideways view.
Neil
It was more a comment in just how visually different they looked. Not that there was any physical difference. I took it that everything remained constant between the two images. It just goes to show that an experience with a photo and experience on the wrist are two different things.
I am not sure 2/3rd links would be possible with these. The screws alone are 2.8mm (1.4mm x 2 holes). Given they are only 6.5mm that might be cutting it very close on the tolerances. You might get down to 5.5mm without too much trouble but from there I think it would be getting tough. The only other solutions would be to make some sort of micro adjustment in the butterfly (has this been done?) or go with the shorter Bader clasp.
It does look like smaller links are not viable. Another way round this would to be add a couple of slightly longer links to allow finer adjustment.
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rkovars wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 3:59 pm
…I took out 3. 2 from the side with 5 and 1 from the other side.
With this clasp, how important is it to remove links specifically from one side of the clasp versus the other? I know with a traditional Bader style I have to pay careful attention to not just how many links I remove but from which side and in what combination to ensure the clasp is positioned most comfortably on my wrist. Do you think the same applies to the butterfly clasp?
…On my 7.5 inch wrist it is very comfortable currently. We will see if I miss the micro-adjust.
What’s the verdict? Did you miss the micro adjust? I’m hoping that between the comfort of the bracelet (as you described it) and the lighter weight of the 36mm Sealander, potentially wearing the bracelet a bit loose to accommodate wrist expansion won’t be an issue?
rkovars wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 3:59 pm
…I took out 3. 2 from the side with 5 and 1 from the other side.
With this clasp, how important is it to remove links specifically from one side of the clasp versus the other? I know with a traditional Bader style I have to pay careful attention to not just how many links I remove but from which side and in what combination to ensure the clasp is positioned most comfortably on my wrist. Do you think the same applies to the butterfly clasp?
I think it's the same as any other bracelet and clasp. The 6 o'clock side needs to be shorter than the 12 o'clock side so that the clasp sits central on the underside of your wrist. I removed 3 links from the 6 o'clock side and none from the 12 o'clock side and it fits really nicely.
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welshlad wrote: ↑Fri Aug 11, 2023 7:37 pm
I think it's the same as any other bracelet and clasp. The 6 o'clock side needs to be shorter than the 12 o'clock side so that the clasp sits central on the underside of your wrist. I removed 3 links from the 6 o'clock side and none from the 12 o'clock side and it fits really nicely.
Thanks, @welshlad. That’s quite helpful. I’m almost there with purchasing one. At this point, I think it’s just about timing the purchase around my credit card billing cycle.
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