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I had a brainfart about making something unique. But im wondering how to proceed.

This is what i had in mind:

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So a C60 300 Pro case, with relief bezel from the Atoll. Both would be 40mm, but is any bezel interchangable on that level, or is the construction of the thinner 300 Pro different from the C60 sapphire/Atoll case construction.
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I think you may be confused with the limited edition Atoll from last year because the current Atoll with the relief bezel uses the C60 Trident Pro 300 case. Can't see why the bezels shouldn't be interchangeable but you would need to buy both watches and try it to be sure.
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OllyW wrote: Wed Nov 08, 2023 2:01 pm I think you may be confused with the limited edition Atoll from last year because the current Atoll with the relief bezel uses the C60 Trident Pro 300 case. Can't see why the bezels shouldn't be interchangeable but you would need to buy both watches and try it to be sure.
Indeed i am confused, i have the LE, and thats on the C60 Sapphire case.. oO 1:1

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It's funny, I was just looking at the same thing and considering a 'special' Sealander. I already have a movement to replace the Sellita.
I've got a few CW with the 36 and 40mm cases, so I'll measure up. The dials between the 36 Sealander and 40mm Sapphire and Atoll, appear to be the same, but I haven't yet opened anything up, so as to not invalidate any warranty.
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MarkingTime wrote: Thu Nov 09, 2023 7:58 am It's funny, I was just looking at the same thing and considering a 'special' Sealander. I already have a movement to replace the Sellita.
May I ask what movement? I don't like SW200/ETA2824 (don't ask) but I wouldn't mind a LJP G100 at all. Not sure if 100% interchangeble or if it's even available to retail.
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schiorean wrote: Thu Nov 09, 2023 9:02 am
MarkingTime wrote: Thu Nov 09, 2023 7:58 am It's funny, I was just looking at the same thing and considering a 'special' Sealander. I already have a movement to replace the Sellita.
May I ask what movement? I don't like SW200/ETA2824 (don't ask) but I wouldn't mind a LJP G100 at all. Not sure if 100% interchangeble or if it's even available to retail.
I have the LJP G100 ready to go with two date wheel options. It has been designed to be a direct replacement for the SW200/ETA2824 in terms of dimensions, so should fit, in theory. I got the ‘elabore’ version and have to say that it looks very nice, but wasn’t cheap. There is nothing else with the same power reserve that comes close in terms of price though, and new model ETAs are no longer available off the shelf, so to speak.
The only downside that I can see is the anonymous rotor and that cannot be swapped out, as it isn’t mounted in the same way as the SW200.
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Nice! The anonymous rotor wouldn't bother me. Please write back with impressions if you swap it out! :D

Currently my CW dream watch is the 40mm White Trident with a LJP movement :D.
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schiorean wrote: Thu Nov 09, 2023 1:01 pm Nice! The anonymous rotor wouldn't bother me. Please write back with impressions if you swap it out! :D

Currently my CW dream watch is the 40mm White Trident with a LJP movement :D.
An old post, but perhaps the 'ultimate C60 300 Pro releasing this year, will fill the void. In the meantime, I'm about decided on swapping movements on my white C63...
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Please let me know if you do any of these swaps as I want to swap the new Trident Pro 300 GMT. I want to have the navy dial with navy/white bezel and the white dial with navy/light-blue bezel. One for me and one for my brother.

Is it possible, and/or easier, to swap the bezel inserts?
Is it possible, and/or easier, to swap the entire bezel?
Is it easier to swap the full hands/dial/movement module?

Inquiring minds want to know...
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Assuming the bezel inserts float out with a bit of nail polish remover, that would probably be the easiest solution. You would need a couple of new 3m rings as well.
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The straight bezel swap would be the easiest option.
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We're watching with interest: it should all be do-able.
C60 MKI, MKII, MKIII: "some",
C6 & C60 Kingfishers,
C600 Tritechs,
C63 "some",
C65 "some",
C4, C40, C8, C9, C3, C5, C20 & 23FLE
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For an enquiring mind;-
Bahnstormer_vRS wrote: Thu Jul 25, 2024 4:29 pm
nycWATCHnerd wrote: Thu Jul 25, 2024 4:20 pm . . . . . . Has anyone ever done that on a CW watch? More difficult than doing it on a Seiko?
I believe @reubicon has done the very same recently with a couple of C60 Trident Pro 600s, to achieve the dial / bezel colour combination he was after.

He bought two watches and swapped bezels; reporting afterwards that he felt to swap the dial / movement within the case would be an easier & neater task to achieve the same result.

PS> This was not mentioned on the forum but written up on the CWE Facebook Group. :wink: :wink:

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I took the entire bezel off of my C65 to mod it to be bi-directional (back when they weren't). It wasn't for the faint of heart then. I am not certain now that the design is the same so any info I would share could be wrong.

I will say that when removing the bezel there is a high probability of scratching the case. No matter how careful you are. On the C65 I had to pry it off because of the way it is designed. My normal bezel removal tool wouldn't work because there was a perpendicular flat edge under the rim of the bezel. There was also an internal retention spring that made reseating the bezel a bear. I would think I had it reseated and then it would pop off when I went to turn it.

One caution I will give is working with ceramic bezels is tricky. They break really easy. If you were to break one you would be stuck because CW won't give you a replacement and there are no aftermarket parts that I am aware of.

Maybe this might be a side business for Ward Hoard if he could figure out which manufacturer does CWs bezels. He could order some up but you are looking at 150-200 MOQ.

In the end I would opt for a wholesale movement swap. Pop the crown, a couple of screws and in and out. The only thing you would really have to worry about is dust.
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