C65 Super Compressor

paw3001 · Post by **paw3001** » Thu Aug 27, 2020 7:42 pm

nbg wrote:My thoughts are 150m is more than enough for recreational diving!

Why are people obsessed by pointlessly excessive WR on a watch?

Neil

Because the 150m specified is not really the depth the watch can be used to!

Recreational no compression dives limits are 40m but would you dive with a watch rated to 50m or 100m.

This watch is marketed as a true dive watch that it is using an old innovation but at 150m and with an internal bezel I really would not feel comfortable taking it down.

I like the colours but not the case or costs, I mean they are now charging to resize the bracelet...come on!

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Victor88 · Post by **Victor88** » Thu Aug 27, 2020 7:53 pm

It looks very good, however it’s the authenticity of a genuine, reverse engineered super compressor case that sells it for me. No marketing fads, fauxtina, bits of metal or fabric from old cars or planes necessary to make it a credible - and functional - heritage piece.

Great job

H0rati0 · Post by **H0rati0** » Thu Aug 27, 2020 7:54 pm

rkovars wrote: ↑Thu Aug 27, 2020 6:52 pm
I think you meant 90 feet there. 90 meters (~290 feet) is quite deep. On average, I would say most stay above 60 feet. After that you are getting into more serious territory. Beyond 130 you really need to know what you are doing.

In my experience, over engineering is better. Most modern dive watches are over engineered to what the rating on the dial says. So in general you should be okay.

Over the years I have had water ingress in watches that you wouldn't think it would ever happen to (think Rolex, Seiko etc - all were due to failures in the seals - not unscrewed crowns etc). I am sure this makes me overcompensate in the WR area.

Has CW ever stated that they pressure test each watch? Anything with the Diver mark is ISO and each individual watch is pressure tested. Many of the well known brands test every watch even though they aren't ISO. I'm just curious where CW falls on the topic.

On SCUBA, 90m is seriously heavy (as in dangerous) technical diving with hours of deco and multiple gases required.

No matter what the engineering, if you have seal failure any watch is kaput. Regular pressure testing is the only way to be certain that a watch is up to the task and even then.....

Post by **welshlad** » Thu Aug 27, 2020 8:07 pm

Victor88 wrote:It looks very good, however it’s the authenticity of a genuine, reverse engineered super compressor case that sells it for me. No marketing fads, fauxtina, bits of metal or fabric from old cars or planes necessary to make it a credible - and functional - heritage piece.

Great job

This about sums up my view too. I think it is a cracking watch and I hope it does very well.

redmonaco · Post by **redmonaco** » Thu Aug 27, 2020 8:33 pm

The black dial looks brown to me...???

TigerChris · Post by **TigerChris** » Thu Aug 27, 2020 8:35 pm

redmonaco wrote: ↑Thu Aug 27, 2020 8:33 pm The black dial looks brown to me...???

To be fair it’s called ‘Black Sand’ which I think describes it quite well

nbg · Post by **nbg** » Thu Aug 27, 2020 8:43 pm

paw3001 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 27, 2020 7:42 pm
nbg wrote:My thoughts are 150m is more than enough for recreational diving!

Why are people obsessed by pointlessly excessive WR on a watch?

Neil
Because the 150m specified is not really the depth the watch can be used to!

Recreational no compression dives limits are 40m but would you dive with a watch rated to 50m or 100m.

I reckon that depends on the brand.

These chaps went some what deeper than 40m with a 100m WR watch.
https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=92436

Slightly off topic, but an interesting read.

Oh, IIRC from previous posts on the CW forum, I understand that the chap who first quoted my post in this thread has occasionally dived whilst wearing a DateJust.

Neil

johncolescarr · Post by **johncolescarr** » Thu Aug 27, 2020 8:48 pm

I always take the 150m as a nod to the 60s retro heritage where lots of watches had 150m. Modern dive watches seem to settle on 300m minimum nowadays. Let’s be honest though even if you take your watch air diving 150m will be plenty.

Oh and thinness, but my C60 has 600m and is hardly thick

StrappedUp · Post by **StrappedUp** » Thu Aug 27, 2020 8:52 pm

brash47 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 27, 2020 7:30 pm I agree, great move with the exhibition back. I love to see the tech on the inside. Especially since this one is showing true to the real design!

brash

I suspect we will get some technical info and some pics when Loupe is released (tomorrow?).

drand · Post by **drand** » Thu Aug 27, 2020 9:25 pm

TigerChris wrote: ↑Thu Aug 27, 2020 8:35 pm
redmonaco wrote: ↑Thu Aug 27, 2020 8:33 pm The black dial looks brown to me...???
To be fair it’s called ‘Black Sand’ which I think describes it quite well

I was wondering this too. The black sand beaches I've been to were proper black. Frontal shots give it a slight ombré look but I think that's a trick of the lighting. The oblique photo gives the impression it's pretty black, but textured, perhaps that's the 'sand'.

A lot to like - case arc, coloured lume pips, shape of the hour markers, minute track font, central logo (gasp). I'm not fond of the red highlights but I appreciate they give it an extra dimension. As ever awaiting real world-photos!

nordwulf · Post by **nordwulf** » Thu Aug 27, 2020 10:47 pm

StrappedUp wrote: ↑Thu Aug 27, 2020 8:52 pm
brash47 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 27, 2020 7:30 pm I agree, great move with the exhibition back. I love to see the tech on the inside. Especially since this one is showing true to the real design!

brash
I suspect we will get some technical info and some pics when Loupe is released (tomorrow?).

https://www.christopherward.com/int/lou ... compressor

Lavaine · Post by **Lavaine** » Thu Aug 27, 2020 11:20 pm

paw3001 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 27, 2020 7:42 pm Recreational no compression dives limits are 40m but would you dive with a watch rated to 50m or 100m.

I'm guessing you missed the posts about the Fifty Fathoms, Zodiac and Submariner all being 100m (technically 91m for the Blancpain) dive watches? Yes, I would happily dive with a 100m watch, and thousands of divers have done so for the past 70 years. So long as it's been properly maintained (and from a brand that uses legitimate depth ratings, so maybe not Invicta) there is no good reason you couldn't dive with a 50m WR watch either, other than not having a comfortable buffer for peace of mind.

Soporsche · Post by **Soporsche** » Fri Aug 28, 2020 12:38 am

Think the design, tech, logo placement and colours are all great.. I really need to see real world pics of it or better still physically..
I suspect at 41mm with wide internal bezel and case extending beyond dial/bezel that the actual dial may look or feel way too small to me (personal preference).
If I was convinced by the size I would order one immediately.

paw3001 · Post by **paw3001** » Fri Aug 28, 2020 5:54 am

Lavaine wrote:
paw3001 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 27, 2020 7:42 pm Recreational no compression dives limits are 40m but would you dive with a watch rated to 50m or 100m.

I'm guessing you missed the posts about the Fifty Fathoms, Zodiac and Submariner all being 100m (technically 91m for the Blancpain) dive watches? Yes, I would happily dive with a 100m watch, and thousands of divers have done so for the past 70 years. So long as it's been properly maintained (and from a brand that uses legitimate depth ratings, so maybe not Invicta) there is no good reason you couldn't dive with a 50m WR watch either, other than not having a comfortable buffer for peace of mind.

No I didn’t but I guess you have missed many of these type of charts

And this one from the manual of a C60

Therefore, I am glad you are confident to dive with your near to £1k watch but I would be feeling a little trepidatious with anything rated below 200m.

Of course, it is all theoretical as I would never really dive with any of my expensive dive watches...I use a cheap citizen or Seiko...just in case.

I suppose having experienced even an Omega Seamaster failing in a swimming pool has made me wary!

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eric72 · Post by **eric72** » Fri Aug 28, 2020 6:18 am

Thermexman wrote:Placed an order at 4 pm and the watch was stated as being in stock. Just checked my order status and it’s showing as on pre-order!!!!
Funnily enough, 3 hrs later it’s still showing as in stock on the website?

What’s that all about?

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Same for me. Will probably write to CS and ask. Fon‘t want to wait for weeks.

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