C63 Sealander Collection

Caller · Post by **Caller** » Fri Apr 30, 2021 6:05 pm

Amor Vincit Omnia wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 7:57 pm
iain wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 7:52 pm Do you know something we don’t? Or have I read too much into a perfectly innocent comment?
Just extrapolating what happened with the Trident Mk3 40mm. Black only at first.

If anything they should be considering some sort of green version, but nothing bright, more of a matte, either an olive green type of shade or something much darker.

Post by **rkovars** » Fri Apr 30, 2021 6:07 pm

jkbarnes wrote: ↑Fri Apr 30, 2021 5:56 pm Hardly anyone has mentioned the exhibition case backs. That’s a stand out feature for me.

Normally I could take or leave an exhibition case back. On most watches it just makes the watch thicker and if you don't have anything in particular to show off why bother. For example, I would rather my Steinhart Blue LE didn't have one and shave a mil or so off of the height. To contrast, the Super Compressor is great because it shows off something novel. With most CWs, however, the deep case engraving (makes the case back thicker anyway) on most of their case backs kind of makes it a wash in my mind so why not put an exhibition on it if the height would be the same anyway.

Lavaine · Post by **Lavaine** » Fri Apr 30, 2021 6:11 pm

TimeOut wrote: ↑Fri Apr 30, 2021 1:12 pm [I'm the person in question. As I noted in my original post, I'm not a diver, but I do wear a watch during water sports. I don't want a rotating bezel to make a watch look "more like a diver." I want a rotating bezel to actually use to time non-diving activities. I want a sporty watch, but I don't want one that looks like I just got off a dive boat when I'm wearing it during all the times that I'm not actively engaged in water sports. I realize there's a fine line to balance sportiness, functionality, water resistance, design aesthetic, etc. The Christopher Ward website describes the C63 category as "Sport," which should be the right category for what I want. It's just that the specific models they introduced in it so far aren't quite what I want. And as I noted in my original post, I know I'm being picky, but I know what I want (whether or not anyone else wants the same thing).

I'm not actually sure the watch you want exists. Timing bezels are pretty closely aligned with diving watches. The other place they are sometimes seen is on a few military style watches (count-up bezels or the few red indicator bezel pilots watches) but those aren't "sport" watches. Maybe something with an internal bezel? They may still be thicker than you would like, as they are generally still divers, but they definitely have less of the "just got back from the Marianas Trench" vibe to them.

Jcalder68 · Post by **Jcalder68** » Fri Apr 30, 2021 6:18 pm

I really love these watches and am so glad that the case sizes are sub-40mm.

If the “Auto” was available with a COSC movement then I’d snap it up in the blink of an eye! Thankfully, I can probably find a place for the Elite in my collection - my first CW Titanium case too.

C

audio.bill · Post by **audio.bill** » Fri Apr 30, 2021 6:23 pm

Time To Unwind by WatchGecko
Season 2, EP #7: Mike France talks about Christopher Ward's new releases and more...

We were lucky enough to get an interview with Mike France ahead of the launch of the brand new C63 Sealander Collection. Two years in the making, the collection comprises a Sealander GMT, a three-hander with date (dubbed the Sealander Automatic), and a COSC certified Elite model which is made of titanium and features an incredible retractable crown. Trust us, when we say that this is episode you will not want to miss!

As well as revealing the inspiration behind the new watch range - said to be the ‘missing link’ for the brand - Mike offers a free watch to anybody who can bring him a watch from another brand that offers the same level of engineering as the new Sealander at the price point!

Mike also shares an unexpected amount of detail about pipeline projects and future plans, which include an impressive new dress watch, a collab that will feature an incredible new movement, a new ‘Christopher Ward green’ and even more bracelet tech. In fact, Mike’s tongue gets so loose during our interview that he now fears returning to Maidenhead for the next design team meeting!

Also, in an unexpected turn of events, Mike makes James’ heart beat just a little faster, by inviting talk of a possible collab with our very own WatchGecko design team (James hasn’t slept a wink since!). This is despite James’ best effort to rile Mike beforehand by asking about their controversial logo. Incidentally Mike answers in a typically open fashion, and with an answer that’s sure to please many fans.

Finally, wider discussion centres around the resurgence of smaller watch case sizes, the state of British watchmaking generally, and how Mike believes innovation will help return British watchmaking to the glory days. Plus of course audience questions!

Caller · Post by **Caller** » Fri Apr 30, 2021 6:32 pm

tikkathree wrote: ↑Fri Apr 30, 2021 6:16 am
Bahnstormer_vRS wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 11:38 pm
Caller wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 3:48 pm . . . . . . .

As for the video's, I liked the jeep, if that's what it was, but not a video I would recommend to look at watches. Bit of a waste of money really. Just as with divers, most won't use these watches to explore the wilds of deepest darkest Devon, yet alone the rain forests of Northern Queensland!
. . . .
I think you'll find it was a Land Rover Defender upgraded by Arkonik

Guy
Jeep? ....Jeep?.... Dear God no you were right to be circumspect This is a Land Rover product, cramped, heavy, noisy, prone to rusty......

To be honest, I wasn't bothered what it was. It just annoyed me as I wanted to look at the watches.

But if as you say, it's prone to being rusty, it would be no good where I live, plenty of water here in the monsoon. Plenty of driving off-road as well, which my trusty Mazda truck copes with perfectly well.

cincfleet · Post by **cincfleet** » Fri Apr 30, 2021 6:35 pm

I was , initially, excited to receive the email. I immediately checked out the web site o the day, but, really ended up with a "Meh" moment, apart from the recessed crown which required further investigation. The jury is still out here.

ScofieldReturns · Post by **ScofieldReturns** » Fri Apr 30, 2021 6:40 pm

missF wrote: ↑Fri Apr 30, 2021 10:56 am Chocolate cake and hazelnuts.

If you were at a dinner party and were served chocolate cake for dessert, but you we're quite partial to having hazelnuts on your chocolate cake, you wouldn't get *indignant* or even *angry* about the lack of hazelnuts... You wouldn't see it as a personal affront that the host hadn't made dessert exactly the way you like it. After all, the host didn't make it just for you. And you certainly wouldn't turn your nose up and tell the host that it's inconceivable to you why they didn't add hazelnuts...

You'd probably appreciate the cake for what it is (chocolate cake), and either enjoy a slice or politely say no thank you.

Sorry for taking this thread so far off course!!!

if im paying $1,000 for a piece of cake, they better give me whatever toppings i want even if i ask for filet mignon

TimeOut · Post by **TimeOut** » Fri Apr 30, 2021 7:35 pm

Lavaine wrote: ↑Fri Apr 30, 2021 6:11 pm
TimeOut wrote: ↑Fri Apr 30, 2021 1:12 pm [I'm the person in question. As I noted in my original post, I'm not a diver, but I do wear a watch during water sports. I don't want a rotating bezel to make a watch look "more like a diver." I want a rotating bezel to actually use to time non-diving activities. I want a sporty watch, but I don't want one that looks like I just got off a dive boat when I'm wearing it during all the times that I'm not actively engaged in water sports. I realize there's a fine line to balance sportiness, functionality, water resistance, design aesthetic, etc. The Christopher Ward website describes the C63 category as "Sport," which should be the right category for what I want. It's just that the specific models they introduced in it so far aren't quite what I want. And as I noted in my original post, I know I'm being picky, but I know what I want (whether or not anyone else wants the same thing).
I'm not actually sure the watch you want exists. Timing bezels are pretty closely aligned with diving watches. The other place they are sometimes seen is on a few military style watches (count-up bezels or the few red indicator bezel pilots watches) but those aren't "sport" watches. Maybe something with an internal bezel? They may still be thicker than you would like, as they are generally still divers, but they definitely have less of the "just got back from the Marianas Trench" vibe to them.

You might be right that my ideal watch doesn't exist. But several are close, which is what makes my search so frustrating.

drand · Post by **drand** » Fri Apr 30, 2021 8:02 pm

TimeOut wrote: ↑Fri Apr 30, 2021 7:35 pm
Lavaine wrote: ↑Fri Apr 30, 2021 6:11 pm
TimeOut wrote: ↑Fri Apr 30, 2021 1:12 pm [I'm the person in question. As I noted in my original post, I'm not a diver, but I do wear a watch during water sports. I don't want a rotating bezel to make a watch look "more like a diver." I want a rotating bezel to actually use to time non-diving activities. I want a sporty watch, but I don't want one that looks like I just got off a dive boat when I'm wearing it during all the times that I'm not actively engaged in water sports. I realize there's a fine line to balance sportiness, functionality, water resistance, design aesthetic, etc. The Christopher Ward website describes the C63 category as "Sport," which should be the right category for what I want. It's just that the specific models they introduced in it so far aren't quite what I want. And as I noted in my original post, I know I'm being picky, but I know what I want (whether or not anyone else wants the same thing).
I'm not actually sure the watch you want exists. Timing bezels are pretty closely aligned with diving watches. The other place they are sometimes seen is on a few military style watches (count-up bezels or the few red indicator bezel pilots watches) but those aren't "sport" watches. Maybe something with an internal bezel? They may still be thicker than you would like, as they are generally still divers, but they definitely have less of the "just got back from the Marianas Trench" vibe to them.
You might be right that my ideal watch doesn't exist. But several are close, which is what makes my search so frustrating.

This would make a good thread and/or a queryable database - my ideal watch has to these characteristics, what can the good people of CW forum come up with that fits the bill? I bet there are plenty on here who may have found their ideal watch and realised what they thought they wanted wasn't totally accurate.

But good luck on your search - sounds like your ideal is not too far removed from mine.

Lawrence · Post by **Lawrence** » Fri Apr 30, 2021 8:14 pm

Not too sure about that recessed crown business, it's almost like a dog without ears.

hgercek · Post by **hgercek** » Fri Apr 30, 2021 9:02 pm

Does anybody know if the sapphire crystal of the three hander is flat or domed?

albionphoto · Post by **albionphoto** » Fri Apr 30, 2021 9:55 pm

audio.bill wrote: ↑Fri Apr 30, 2021 6:23 pm Time To Unwind by WatchGecko
Season 2, EP #7: Mike France talks about Christopher Ward's new releases and more...

We were lucky enough to get an interview with Mike France ahead of the launch of the brand new C63 Sealander Collection. Two years in the making, the collection comprises a Sealander GMT, a three-hander with date (dubbed the Sealander Automatic), and a COSC certified Elite model which is made of titanium and features an incredible retractable crown. Trust us, when we say that this is episode you will not want to miss!

As well as revealing the inspiration behind the new watch range - said to be the ‘missing link’ for the brand - Mike offers a free watch to anybody who can bring him a watch from another brand that offers the same level of engineering as the new Sealander at the price point!

Mike also shares an unexpected amount of detail about pipeline projects and future plans, which include an impressive new dress watch, a collab that will feature an incredible new movement, a new ‘Christopher Ward green’ and even more bracelet tech. In fact, Mike’s tongue gets so loose during our interview that he now fears returning to Maidenhead for the next design team meeting!

Also, in an unexpected turn of events, Mike makes James’ heart beat just a little faster, by inviting talk of a possible collab with our very own WatchGecko design team (James hasn’t slept a wink since!). This is despite James’ best effort to rile Mike beforehand by asking about their controversial logo. Incidentally Mike answers in a typically open fashion, and with an answer that’s sure to please many fans.

Finally, wider discussion centres around the resurgence of smaller watch case sizes, the state of British watchmaking generally, and how Mike believes innovation will help return British watchmaking to the glory days. Plus of course audience questions!

This is an excellent podcast. Mike was very open and if you have 80 minutes to listen to it, you will learn an awful lot about the brand and it's possible future. Thanks for posting this.

Post by **Kip** » Fri Apr 30, 2021 10:53 pm

I have been told that that the Thursday launch of the C63 Sealander's was the biggest ever sales day outside the launch of a Sale – EVER!

The new Sealander’s beat even the launch of Trident 3 in 2019 (the previous record) as well as both the Sapphire and Super Compressor launches of last year which were both fantastic.

Although all models are selling well, the GMT is the #1 seller.

What does this mean?

I would speculate that a few months in our future we might see some other colors added and possibly a smaller sized watch at some point. Black and white dials are the core of sales so if they prove successful, and they have so far, that bodes well for future variant possibilities.

Post by **Bahnstormer_vRS** » Fri Apr 30, 2021 11:01 pm

Kudos to CW on that level of sales.

I suspected it was good from the chatter and mention of orders being placed both here on the Forum and in the CWE Group.

What is equally, if not more, impressive is the lack of gripes about website not working, orders being delayed etc. (OK, the odd mention of the 100LOUPE21 code not working, but that seemed to be quickly resolved and was on an individual basis).

Top notch all round and congratulations to those who have bought. Enjoy your watches.

Guy

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