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Very tempted by the White Dial GMT Sealander. I have the Grand Seiko SBGN005 with the dark Blue dial and this would be a nice contrast. I am at my limit of 10 watches now and am determined not to exceed this so something would need moving on. Hmmm....Image

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I’ve been closely examining the images of the Elite and it’s finally clicked as to what the problem is for me.

Whilst the material and technology of the case and crown is impressive I think the geometry of the dial is off. The outer rehaut is an individual minute marker, next in is the ring with the gaps and the final inner ring is a minute marker with quarter minute ticks. Firstly, these take up a lot of dial real estate. Secondly, the tip of the minute hand overlaps the inner minute ring but does not reach the outer minute rehaut; it just floats over the middle ring with the gaps in. The same applies to the tip of the second hand. This doesn’t make it easy to hack and set a watch that is rated as a chronometer.

I think the gaps in the dial are an unnecessary gimmick and detract from the legibility of the dial. The idea that it’s been done as an integral part of the weight saving process is rather disingenuous as a dozen cutouts in an aluminium dial is unlikely to save more than 3-4 grams.
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So many plus points from these new designs.

Firstly, the sizing is spot on for someone like me cursed with slim wrists. 39mm is my sweet spot and to be honest I’d become resigned to everything being a minimum of 40mm from now on, so this has been a pleasant surprise.

Secondly, I love the symmetry. The CW logo on the left has never bothered me if the date window is on the right, but going logo/date at 12/6 works very nicely too.

Thirdly, the white dial with orange accents is a killer combo. And finally the price point is very reasonable too.

I’m trying to resist any further purchases until January, but unless CW pull any more winning designs out of the hat during the remainder of the year, it’ll be between one of these and a Super Compressor for me I think.
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Amor Vincit Omnia wrote: Thu Apr 29, 2021 7:48 pm Can you show us an example of a Ti case/bracelet chronometer with telescopic/retractable crown that sells for $1000?
How about the Seamaster Aqua Terra Ultra Light? OK, it costs slightly more :) than a thousand pounds. Aside from this Omega and the Sealander Elite, is there another COSC watch that's titanium with a retractable crown?
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timor54 wrote: Thu Apr 29, 2021 9:31 pm I’ve been closely examining the images of the Elite and it’s finally clicked as to what the problem is for me.
I see what you mean. The minute hand is a really odd length and looks particularly jarring in the lume shot.
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Dang was set to buy the GMT...then saw the bezel was fixed. Why on earth would they do that?! CW has the best rotating bezel in the business. That just kills it for me

Is the metal bracelet the same as the c60? I find that one uncomfortable
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As a newbie here who does not yet own a CW watch but has been seriously considering buying one, I had great expectations for the new C63 line. I really like the styling of these, but I'm utterly baffled by the lack of a rotating bezel on any of them. I use a rotating bezel nearly every day for simple timing tasks, e.g. jogging, parking meters, cooking, etc. (I'm not a diver, but I wear a watch while paddling and doing other water sports.)

The ideal CW watch for me would be either of these:
1) A version of the C63 Elite with internal rotating bezel, as in the C65 Super Compressor.
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2) A version of the C63 Automatic with an external rotating bezel using minute markers (don't want a bezel with hour markers or a GMT hand).

I guess I'll wait to see what CW comes up with next time.
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Been looking at all three C63 models in greater detail today and really liking what I see. Nice range from auto, through GMT to Elite.

I’m drawn to the white GMT, as I don’t have a white dial sports watch and do love (and actually use) the GMT function on my Elite.

However, the new C63 Elite really does look rather impressive and I’m also unsure about the sizing, as I’ve never tried a watch at 39mm, so decision still in progress on which one to get, but I am impressed :thumbup:
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The white dial auto is really appealing- but my Laco Cuxhaven has a white dial so may be selling that to part fund the c63!
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ScofieldReturns wrote: Thu Apr 29, 2021 9:45 pm Dang was set to buy the GMT...then saw the bezel was fixed. Why on earth would they do that?! CW has the best rotating bezel in the business. That just kills it for me
Because the already have a GMT watch with rotating bezel. It sounds like that's the one you want.
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Caller wrote: Thu Apr 29, 2021 3:48 pm . . . . . . .

As for the video's, I liked the jeep, if that's what it was, but not a video I would recommend to look at watches. Bit of a waste of money really. Just as with divers, most won't use these watches to explore the wilds of deepest darkest Devon, yet alone the rain forests of Northern Queensland!
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I think CW has really nailed it with 2 of the 3 new designs. The marketing, as usual, leaves something to be desired.

The 3 hand C63 auto is great. I'll be surprised if we don't see a 36mm version, possibly a no-date version, and maybe some more dial colours.

The GMT is excellent. A "true" GMT movement would be gravy on top, but at this price that wasn't happening, and unless you are travelling constantly, not actually that big a deal. This on is now on mu short list. My current "next up" list is a GS SBGN or a Tudor 1926. I can buy this and the 1926 for the same money as the SBGN. Hmmm.

The Elite, for me, is a fail, on a number of levels. FIrst off, the crown. Watches with hidden crowns just look bad. They always look like something is missing. The Omega is strange looking, but at least has a protruding crown guard to give the appearance of a crown at 3. They also tend to be awkward to use. This one apparently isn't, but you wouldn't know that from reading the website. No rotating inner bezel on a design that has the appearance of a rotating inner bezel? Huh? Should have put that fancy crown to use to rotate the inner bezel. The dial cutouts are a cute marketing gimmick, but I expect that they will disappear on the wrist. After taking off the watch a coupple of times to show bored friends the cutouts, they'll never be noticed again. I will say, however, that the dial texture is just lovely, and I wouldn't mind seeing it used on more models. Most importantly, why spend the time building an "Elite" watch with COSC and titanium case, and not spec the SH21? CW has missed HUGE marketing opportunity for "Elite" to be synonymous with "Titanium case and in-house movement". Also, engraving the weight into the caseback is just so much cringe.

As for the marketing: As mentioned above, nothing about the trick push-push crown operation on the website. My own experience with a hidden crown watch was a terrible design that required the crown be pulled out from a detent on the caseback. Before watching the video with Mike I expected this watch was the same terrible design. Maybe a mention and video of the crown operation on the marketing page, since it's the C63's Elite's "party trick". The other gigantic fail is #GODO. WTAF is a GODO? I'm pretty sure Mike France heard his kids talking about #GADA around the dinner table one night, deciding it would be a cool marketing tag line, misspelled it when he got to the office the next day, and everyone was too afraid to tell him. CW should do themselves the favour of making #GODO vanish from all marketing material ASAP.

Overall, a solid performance from CW. I suspect that all 3 models will be good sellers for them in 2021.
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TimeOut wrote:As a newbie here who does not yet own a CW watch but has been seriously considering buying one, I had great expectations for the new C63 line. I really like the styling of these, but I'm utterly baffled by the lack of a rotating bezel on any of them. I use a rotating bezel nearly every day for simple timing tasks, e.g. jogging, parking meters, cooking, etc. (I'm not a diver, but I wear a watch while paddling and doing other water sports.)

The ideal CW watch for me would be either of these:
1) A version of the C63 Elite with internal rotating bezel, as in the C65 Super Compressor.
or
2) A version of the C63 Automatic with an external rotating bezel using minute markers (don't want a bezel with hour markers or a GMT hand).

I guess I'll wait to see what CW comes up with next time.
There is a C63 automatic with a rotating bezel, in 3 different sizes. It's called the C60 Trident..38, 40, 42. Various dial colors and a rotating divers bezel.

So, I saw you said you're a newbie....1. Welcome!!!! 2. The C63 case is the C60 case without the rotating bezel. Check out the diver section and be dazzled!!

For the poster who wanted a rotating GMT bezel, The C60 Trident GMT is already built. Head on over to the diver section. Unfortunately, there isn't a white dial version....clue to CW....that would be a killer combo....

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My first impressions were that I wasnt impressed and I also find 41mm a minimum for my 8" wrist. I hated the look of the super compressor when I first saw it and love those now.

I keep looking at the pics and the 40mm Elite is growing on me. I'm looking at the cut outs round the dial and wondering if you see movement behind these ie the white behind these seems to have dark areas as well. I better look again and watch the videos again
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brash47 wrote: Thu Apr 29, 2021 11:46 pmThere is a C63 automatic with a rotating bezel, in 3 different sizes. It's called the C60 Trident..38, 40, 42. Various dial colors and a rotating divers bezel.

So, I saw you said you're a newbie....1. Welcome!!!! 2. The C63 case is the C60 case without the rotating bezel. Check out the diver section and be dazzled!!

For the poster who wanted a rotating GMT bezel, The C60 Trident GMT is already built. Head on over to the diver section. Unfortunately, there isn't a white dial version....clue to CW....that would be a killer combo....

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I've seen the C60 series, but most of those models are a bit too "dive watch-y" for my taste. The C60 model that comes closest to my ideal watch is the Sapphire Black, but... (CW folks will undoubtedly cringe at this comment because I know how much work they put into the smoked sapphire)... I'd actually prefer that very watch with a lympstone-style face or some other dark opaque face instead of the transluscent sapphire. I don't particularly want to see the movement from the front side of a watch. The sapphire face seems to be trying to hard to say "look at my cool watch," instead of "look at what time it is." (I know I'm being picky, but a watch is the only item that I wear every single day...)
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