Your needing to scale down your quotes President. You use up pages quoting like that. They could all read it for themselves. Quotes are there to highlight snippets that you are commenting on. Its bad etiquete to quote whole posts.

President wrote:The bezels don't even have the same style edge.

Of course the bezels between the Omega and the Rolex are different . You need a little imagination here President. You surely do not expect me to pop sommat out of the oven that would be an exact reproduction of what CWL would manufacture. There is a bit of artistic licence here. I can only work with the images available for a start. The point is

Would a C6 suit an enamel bezel.

not

Would a C6 suit Terminators enamel bezel.

Im trying to lead your imagination towards a concept by getting the ball rolling by at least letting you visualise the concept via mock images. If your imagination stumbles at that point in the process then I am really stuffed at try to get you to visualise anything at all.

Now your really nit picking at the pictures and that is not the purpose in doing them.

Terminator 2 wrote:Your needing to scale down your quotes President. You use up pages quoting like that. They could all read it for themselves. Quotes are there to highlight snippets that you are commenting on. Its bad etiquete to quote whole posts.

I used to be a member of a forum that banned me temporarily for altering what people wrote in quotes because I cropped them.

*Looks around nervously*

President wrote:I used to be a member of a forum that banned me temporarily for altering what people wrote in quotes because I cropped them.

Well that was an extremely badly moderated forum that you should be glad you are no longer a part of. Quotes are exactly that, you are quoting so that the reader knows what part of the subject you are referring to. The only way a moderator would have an issue would be if you altered the quote to suit your own agenda. Then that would be misquoting. Quotes were created in the first place in the days of dialup to minimise the amount of downloading and scrolling. Even today with broadband pages of quotes are frustrating for the reader.

I will let you off this time.

Terminator 2 wrote:You use up pages quoting like that.

You use up pages using multiple quotation marks, larger text than necessary and unnecessary spaces.

O.k., let's continue with the discussion about C6-variations

Terminator 2 wrote:The point is
Would a C6 suit an enamel bezel.
not
Would a C6 suit Terminators enamel bezel.

If there ever was a question, really... the way you phrased it was such that it seems as if you assumed the only right answer would've been "of course". But assuming there was a question, it came across as "do you like this design?"

The Doubting Thomases said "no, not really", in a mighty polite manner.
One even squeaked that this was because the sandblasted, profiled bezel suits the case a lot better than a glossy enamel bezel, and that an enameled bezel looked like it was taken from another watch - the end result was rather incoherent. He then went on to squeak that enameled bezels probably worked better on a watch finished to high-gloss.

That has nothing to do with Rolexes and Omegas. Yes, Rolex has done the enameled bezel quite often too, and yes, they have made a royal mess of some of their watches on a few occasions, that's true, but if we simply concentrate on the two different bezel designs, I must squeak that I like the original bezel a lot better.

peter

peterh wrote:If there ever was a question, really... the way you phrased it was such that it seems as if you assumed the only right answer would've been "of course". But assuming there was a question, it came across as "do you like this design?"

It was a question Peter. Not directly but surely people are not that simple that everything has to be spelled out in minute detail. However if you read the first thread again you will see the point is made about a C6 Enamel Bezel in bold in the quote below. It in no way says that I am asking directly should it be Terminators bezel.

Terminator 2 wrote:Im not knocking the C6. I have one on order and I am looking forward to getting my hands on it. However like the C4 before it I just can help but wonder WHAT IF ?. I cant help but wonder just how she would look with an Enameled Bezel. The first pic is of the " official " C6 and the second pic is the same watch with an enameled bezel. I personaly really like the watch with the enamled bezel. What do you lot think ???]

I must admit I reckon that some watch buffs must be a strange bunch lol. They seem to suffer totally from tunnel vision. I have noticed this in the past with other pictures also. They take any picture literally and do not take it for what it is ie simply a mock up. Many times before I have had to state that I am not a watch designer and that I am not a graphics artist. Of course I can take it when an idea is rejected but for the right reasons. However taking the accuracy of a picture literally is a prime example of the wrong reason.

Actually Peter to prove my point about this strange phenomena here is a link that might interest you purely out historical curiousity. You might not be aware of it you see as it was a while ago.

>>> HERE <<<

Interesting result isnt it. It is exactly the same result this time yet back then the actuall poll question was " Would You Buy A C4 Peregrine [/b]Like[/b] This One ? ". I did not say would you buy my one ie that one but that seems to be how it was taken. It was the same in some of the " Woody " threads too. My mistake was how I headed the actual thread. It seems that some of them never actually read the question. The C4 Terminator also lost the vote but CWL are making it. So someone liked it lol but I reckon they did not take the pictures literally. It will also be interesting as to how well it sells because that is where the idea came from. Lets just call it marketing intuition.

So you bunch of tunnel visioned watch nutter weirdo's ( not all of you of course but there are one or two in here lmao ) that need everything explained in minute detail to you.

People need to stop taking the pictures literally. The question was.

Would a C6 Suit An Enameled Bezel ???

Man I never have this problem anywhere else

Terminator 2 wrote:

peterh wrote:If there ever was a question, really... the way you phrased it was such that it seems as if you assumed the only right answer would've been "of course". But assuming there was a question, it came across as "do you like this design?"

It was a question Peter. Not directly but surely people are not that simple that everything has to be spelled out in minute detail.

Not in the strictest sense, but it does help if you say what you mean to say.

In the same post, I read

I am sure the Doubting Thomas's in here will disagree or not admit it lmao but I dont know.

which immediately qualifies the ones who disagree.

However if you read the first thread again you will see the point is made about a C6 Enamel Bezel in bold in the quote below. It in no way says that I am asking directly should it be Terminators bezel.

No, but the pictures you add point the reader firmly in that direction.

But you also got an answer (twice) to the question "Would an enamel bezel fit the C6?"
The first one was on page 1:

a smooth enameled bezel would work on a high-gloss case, but on the C6 case it looks like an afterthought.

Two posts later, you completely ignore that answer, you admit that we should've all answered "Yes, of course.", and it ticks you off that we didn't:

Basically Enamel Bezels go with Diver Watches just like bread goes with jam and I sometimes think that certain people lose sight of reality in here. You get me now
Enamel Bezel = Diver Watch
Its a simple equation and is FACT.

You even go as far as stating that your opinion is FACT, and if we don't get that, we have lost sight of reality.
That is the sort of dialectic that one usually does not get away with.

I do not think that enamels go with diver watches like bread go with jam - that time has long gone. Seiko and IWC can get away without using an enamel bezel on their pro diver watches these days. I think it's a simple equation indeed, but 1 = 2 is also a simple equation.

But hey. On page 2, while keeping my opinion about the way you phrase your reply to myself, I repeat my original answer, which imho again directly answers your question.
You do not react to that either, but all of a sudden, we've become a strange bunch suffering from tunnel vision.

I'm very sorry, but if you never have this problem anywhere else, then apparently you have a completely different style of debating everywhere else, wherever that is.

I hate to phrase my opinion about people, even if I disagree with their points of view, but there is something that bothers me about your contributions, and I think I'm not alone in this.
Let me phrase this very carefully:
I don't know you, but from your posts, you do seem to come across as if the Peregrine Terminator has gone to your head a wee bit. The fact that you keep boasting about it doesn't help.

I know this sounds harsh, but that's how it reads. You may want to take that into account.

OK. One more time then:

The question was.
Would a C6 Suit An Enameled Bezel ???

I think not. You may think (it's not FACT, it's your preconception) that divers need enamel bezels, but I think an enamel bezel shatters the C6's design consistency.

Does that answer your question?

peter

From a watch novice I like the enamel bevel! esp on the lime face>

I think not. You may think (it's not FACT, it's your preconception) that divers need enamel bezels, but I think an enamel bezel shatters the C6's design consistency.

This is a working watch, to some extent all that matters is how easy the bezel is to read under water, surely in this case cosmetics are secondary? For me the enamel gets this vote, just on readability.....but then CW is a diver, so he must have thought of this?

peterh wrote:I don't know you, but from your posts, you do seem to come across as if the Peregrine Terminator has gone to your head a wee bit. The fact that you keep boasting about it doesn't help.

I wholeheartedly agree. A person with terrible and lazy use of English shouldn't be so cocky. I have owned forums and he thinks he has the right to tell me what the quote function was meant for.

That's it, I have had it with the childish reactions! Please continue discussing the C6 design-changes Terminator suggests. Personally I think it is great that Terminator plays around with different design-concepts. You are welcome to discuss them, and tell people why you like them, or not, but it doesn't have to get personal.

From now on I will moderate more stricty irrelevant reactions!

m500dpp wrote:This is a working watch, to some extent all that matters is how easy the bezel is to read under water, surely in this case cosmetics are secondary? For me the enamel gets this vote, just on readability.....but then CW is a diver, so he must have thought of this?

I'm not sure if diving practice has remained the same all over the world, but when I did scuba diving, there were two things you were interested in: the position of the minute hand, and the position of the dot in relation to that. That's why people in our days would happily dive with a bezel without numbers, but with visible protrusions such as a dot at the 12 position, and visible or at least tangible protrusions (preferably high-contrast to make them visible, but at the very least tangible to make them discernible in case visibility would be an issue) at regular intervals.

Also, when diving, you take a torch - or your diving instructor will speak harshly to you. You may not need one in some Mediterranean waters or in other perfectly clear waters if you don't go below 20 meters, but even under bright daylight, murky waters can severely hamper visibility, at least in the North Sea and its estuaries, at depths like 10 meters. We found ourselves using the torch to read the watch and depth gauge almost invariably. When you do that, legibility is not an issue.
In case your dive computer would fail and your torch would get dimmed because of emptying batteries, you would know that there is only one way: up, towards the surface. When you're fighting to read your watch, good lume and, if necessary, protrusions that contrast highly (as on the Kingfisher) or which, if necessary, you can feel if you cannot see them anymore, are all you have. The black protrusions in the SS bezel of the Kingfisher do the job just fine.

I remember one wreck dive (this was way before dive computers hit the scene) where I lost my torch. This was a dive that did require decompression stops. I felt a lot more comfortable because I was able to see the dot on the bezel, and the hands, and the hand on the depth gauge... and I could feel the 5-minute intervals on the bezel. I did have to take my right hand glove off to feel these intervals, and yes, that was quite cold - but one thing you don't want to do is go up from a 15 minute dive at 55 metres without proper decompression stops.

I bow to your superior knowledge, but still prefer ther enamel!!!

m500dpp wrote:I bow to your superior knowledge, but still prefer ther enamel!!!

Oh, that's ok

(It has nothing to do with "superior knowledge" - that's just experience... which is what you accumulate if you grow old and do a lot of odd things doing so, like I've done )

The enameled bezel is a design statement in itself. It does look special, but only if it suits the watch's overall design. In my opinion, the C6 as it is today is not such a watch. The ONLY C6 on which an enameled bezel would stand a chance is a glossy IPK C6. I think the C6 would need a redesign to accommodate an enameled bezel.

This is all regardless of me disliking enameled bezels. I'm not sure where that comes from... it may have to do with the fact that I used to scuba dive for my hobby, and it may have to do with the fact that I like my bezels profiled merely because I just like that. Fact is, I have never seen an enameled-bezel-bearing watch that I really like - and that is entirely subjective.

If I were you, I'd take another look - especially at watches like the Steinhart, which wears the enamel bezel a lot better than the C6 does. Or, if you've got money to burn, at the original... which would be the Submariner. As much as I dislike it for subjective design reasons, it's still a superb watch technically.