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Another model that is near the end of its run.......

The C5 Aviator Limited Edition is expected to be sold out by the end of this year.

Chris was curious about everyones views on a Mark II version. It is something they are considering.

Another opportunity to get your voice heard.

Size, color, dial change.....

What say you?
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Re: C5 Aviator MII

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Something like:- a numbered dial similar to the present Aviator, 40mm and with a 2836, day and date. Combining, if you like, the Aviator and the Forum LE, but with eased shoulders on the lugs. Bit smooth, bit smart...UB
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Something I would prefer on all of CW's future watches would be to get rid of the "Christopher Ward London" wording.

Specifically for the Mk2 Aviator, I would lose the inner dial, increase the size up to 40mm, change to a square date window with a colour matching date wheel. I'd really love to see a ridged machined case and crown.
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a 40mm navigators crono version with colour matched date wheel works for me.
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How about a true UK spec military chrono, simple clean lines, uncluttered dial, no bezel, not quarts. This would be very different to what is in the CW line up at this time.

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I think the C5 Aviator is close to being (or becoming) the CW signature watch. When you look at the comments on this forum, there are plenty of people who would choose it as their definitive CW.

Therefore, the design should be treated with the utmost respect, and should be evolved, rather than totally reinvented.

It has to be a Mark II, not a new watch. There must be a clear link between Mark 1 and Mark II.
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downer wrote:I think the C5 Aviator is close to being (or becoming) the CW signature watch. When you look at the comments on this forum, there are plenty of people who would choose it as their definitive CW.

Therefore, the design should be treated with the utmost respect, and should be evolved, rather than totally reinvented.

It has to be a Mark II, not a new watch. There must be a clear link between Mark 1 and Mark II.
I know what you are saying, I love my C5 aviator, but I am not sure I would buy a slightly bigger, slightly different version of the same watch.

Having said that I have 4 versions of the C6/C60 so what do I know.

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Andyft21 wrote: I know what you are saying, I love my C5 aviator, but I am not sure I would buy a slightly bigger, slightly different version of the same watch.

Having said that I have 4 versions of the C6/C60 so what do I know.

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I agree there is some risk of the Mk2 being too similar to the original, and therefore, not appealing to those who already own one. But this type of watch surely appeals to watch lovers, rather than the 'man in the street', and watch lovers (as we know :D ) are not always rational when it comes to having more than one watch that looks very similar...

I reckon there are at least three audiences for this watch:

- Those looking for a clean 'Aviator' who were not aware of the original
- Those who didn't buy the original because they perceived a weakness of some sort
- Those who have an original but also like the idea of collecting the 'series', Original -> Mark II -> Mark III etc (this is me :) )
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Re: General discussion

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downer wrote:
Andyft21 wrote: I know what you are saying, I love my C5 aviator, but I am not sure I would buy a slightly bigger, slightly different version of the same watch.

Having said that I have 4 versions of the C6/C60 so what do I know.

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I agree there is some risk of the Mk2 being too similar to the original, and therefore, not appealing to those who already own one. But this type of watch surely appeals to watch lovers, rather than the 'man in the street', and watch lovers (as we know :D ) are not always rational when it comes to having more than one watch that looks very similar...

I reckon there are at least three audiences for this watch:

- Those looking for a clean 'Aviator' who were not aware of the original
- Those who didn't buy the original because they perceived a weakness of some sort
- Those who have an original but also like the idea of collecting the 'series', Original -> Mark II -> Mark III etc (this is me :) )
Your absolutely right.

Chris has given us an opportunity to give input and shape the MkII, so hopefully as many members as possible will make thier input and we can make the MkII a future classic.
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Re: General discussion

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I reckon I speak for many when I say that the C5 Aviator LE is the watch which, for me, defines CW - a classic design, a discreet elegance, topped off by a remarkably high-end finish for what remains a stunning price.

Someone else has already said it's a signature, and on that basis alone it should continue. But there is another reason, too: an avowedly English watchmaker should stay committed to producing timepieces which recall an era that was one of the most important in recent English history, and the armed force that played a key role in it.

For me, the Aviator is great as it is, but it could easily cope with a 40mm case, and a face/date orifice which is less obviously from the C5 template. Just keep it restrained and discreet.

2010 will be the 70th anniversary of the Battle of Britain and there would be no better way for CW to pay tribute than with a new version of the C5 Aviator. I know we already have the sector watches, but they are very 'marmite' in their appeal. The C5 Aviator LE is right up there with an IWC Mk XV in terms of look and feel, way beyong it in value. And it's English.
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MorrisOx wrote:I reckon I speak for many when I say that the C5 Aviator LE is the watch which, for me, defines CW - a classic design, a discreet elegance, topped off by a remarkably high-end finish for what remains a stunning price.

Someone else has already said it's a signature, and on that basis alone it should continue. But there is another reason, too: an avowedly English watchmaker should stay committed to producing timepieces which recall an era that was one of the most important in recent English history, and the armed force that played a key role in it.

For me, the Aviator is great as it is, but it could easily cope with a 40mm case, and a face/date orifice which is less obviously from the C5 template. Just keep it restrained and discreet.

2010 will be the 70th anniversary of the Battle of Britain and there would be no better way for CW to pay tribute than with a new version of the C5 Aviator. I know we already have the sector watches, but they are very 'marmite' in their appeal. The C5 Aviator LE is right up there with an IWC Mk XV in terms of look and feel, way beyong it in value. And it's English.
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Change the inner scale to hours, larger case, increase size of hands, make a less dressy more aviator style strap. I have found that the case marks up quite easily as well and could do with being more hard wearing.

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wasnt the aviator supposed to be a limited edition?

surely by creating a new one, CW just take something away from those who do have one already.

Its not very limited if you make a mkII version!
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shrink wrote:wasnt the aviator supposed to be a limited edition?

surely by creating a new one, CW just take something away from those who do have one already.

Its not very limited if you make a mkII version!
Yes it is a limited edition.

You can still make another version by changing,updating or enhancing the existing one without affecting the original version. It will still be a new model.
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stoneyloon wrote:Something I would prefer on all of CW's future watches would be to get rid of the "Christopher Ward London" wording.
I like the "London" bit.
I wonder how it would look with the Logo and "London"
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