Macdaz wrote: ↑Fri Oct 28, 2022 7:29 pm This has been a standard approach for ages, not just with CW either. I was at CW Towers with a friend a few years ago checking out a few watches and Mike came in for a chat. After a while he asked if we would like to see something special, which of course, we did. He brought out the prototype of the c60 Apex which at that stage had not been mentioned anywhere. My mate fell in love and asked Mike if he could order one there and then.

Mike, of course, said yes. My mate paid a deposit and picked his serial number - 007 - before anybody else knew it was coming. (That story later appeared in Loupe). Was Mike really supposed to say 'no you'll have to take your chances when it goes on general release' when somebody was trying to give him money? Of course not! Putting aside the fact that a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush, he risked upsetting another good customer, just in a different way to upsetting a forum member who didn't think anybody should get first dibs.

tralls wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 1:55 am

Macdaz wrote: ↑Fri Oct 28, 2022 7:29 pm This has been a standard approach for ages, not just with CW either. I was at CW Towers with a friend a few years ago checking out a few watches and Mike came in for a chat. After a while he asked if we would like to see something special, which of course, we did. He brought out the prototype of the c60 Apex which at that stage had not been mentioned anywhere. My mate fell in love and asked Mike if he could order one there and then.

Mike, of course, said yes. My mate paid a deposit and picked his serial number - 007 - before anybody else knew it was coming. (That story later appeared in Loupe). Was Mike really supposed to say 'no you'll have to take your chances when it goes on general release' when somebody was trying to give him money? Of course not! Putting aside the fact that a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush, he risked upsetting another good customer, just in a different way to upsetting a forum member who didn't think anybody should get first dibs.

Great example. I believe they also took private orders at the C7 Apex previews as well since there was talk of people being able to select their numbers. Anyways, I am just glad CW has invited all of us to see their next special thing.

sproughton wrote: ↑Fri Oct 28, 2022 6:57 pm

Lavaine wrote: ↑Fri Oct 28, 2022 5:32 pm

sproughton wrote: ↑Fri Oct 28, 2022 1:52 pm
I fully understand the reasons, I just don't agree with them. If information is readily accessible elsewhere, it just seems daft to remove all references to it here, a forum dedicated to CW.

"I know theft is illegal, but if other people steal, why can't I?"

This is what you sound like.

Of course, because stealing something is exactly the same as linking to a post on the internet. An absolute dictionary definition of reductio ad absurdum

It's absolutely fine for this rule to be in place, and I'm not campaigning to have it changed or throwing my toys out of the pram. I understand it, I completely get the mods position on it, I just personally don't agree with it. With a bit of luck we're still in an environment where disagreement is an acceptable form of discussion.

TheBeatles wrote:I agree with all the comments about the embargo.

But I’m still disappointed with the apparent sales going on behind closed doors. An embargo is an embargo. No sales or serial number requests until November 1st.

If not, why not just design a watch and sell it to all your pals.

I’d be a bit miffed if I was hot on my “buy” button (so to speak) next Tuesday to find my desired number had been allocated days ago. If someone had beat me to it on release day, fair enough. But days ago, come on CW, play fair.

Preview attendance or not, this leaves a bad taste in the mouth.

NationOfLaws wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 9:34 pm I for one am extremely glad that this thread has devolved into a bunch of complaining

NationOfLaws wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 9:34 pm I for one am extremely glad that this thread has devolved into a bunch of complaining

tikkathree wrote: ↑Mon Oct 31, 2022 8:51 am But with the watch in open view we'll be able to pass unhappy remarks about the design and points of detail.

Amor Vincit Omnia wrote: ↑Mon Oct 31, 2022 9:10 am

tikkathree wrote: ↑Mon Oct 31, 2022 8:51 am But with the watch in open view we'll be able to pass unhappy remarks about the design and points of detail.

Your prerogative. You have only another day to wait.

tikkathree wrote: ↑Mon Oct 31, 2022 8:51 am

NationOfLaws wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 9:34 pm I for one am extremely glad that this thread has devolved into a bunch of complaining

And I'm fairly confident that the end of the embargo will not be the end of the complaining. But with the watch in open view we'll be able to pass unhappy remarks about the design and points of detail. Bring it on.