Buying my first CW and first mechanical watch

ralfybaby · Post by **ralfybaby** » Wed Sep 20, 2023 10:18 pm

MichaelMD wrote: ↑Wed Sep 20, 2023 10:13 pm
d15unk wrote:.....these days 38 hours doesn't cut it, sorry.....
I always wonder what the current obsession with power reserve is all about. I see it everywhere on watch forums. Certainly for a daily wearer everything > 24h is already overkill to slap it on in the AM after having taken it off before bed. And if it is on a rotation you have to wind and set it anyway unless you have it on a 1-2 days' rotation ....

MichaelMD · Post by **MichaelMD** » Wed Sep 20, 2023 10:31 pm

ralfybaby wrote:
MichaelMD wrote: ↑Wed Sep 20, 2023 10:13 pm
d15unk wrote:.....these days 38 hours doesn't cut it, sorry.....
I always wonder what the current obsession with power reserve is all about. I see it everywhere on watch forums. Certainly for a daily wearer everything > 24h is already overkill to slap it on in the AM after having taken it off before bed. And if it is on a rotation you have to wind and set it anyway unless you have it on a 1-2 days' rotation ....
I'm telling you, with this 300 I've really noticed the shorter PR. Guess I've gotten used to the 72 hours I get on some of my watches. Seems like if I put this down for anything over 24 hours, it's dead when I pick it up. I don't think I'm getting 38 with this one for whatever reason. I really think these days 48 is the minimum for power reserve. So many watches put there (and not all high priced luxury) that are getting 60+ hours. Is it a deal-breaker to have less? Well no, I bought it after all. But I sure would have preferred more.

MistaFroggyG · Post by **MistaFroggyG** » Thu Sep 21, 2023 3:30 am

Sometimes I enjoy alternating each day between a pair of watches. Unfortunately, I find that with only a 38h reserve, one will tend to run out after a few swaps.

That’s about 34 hours between wears so if the watch isn’t at 100% when I take it off, it might not make it to the next wear. 48 hours would easily solve the issue.

The LJP G100 is a drop in replacement for the SW200 and has a 68 hour reserve…

NigelS · Post by **NigelS** » Thu Sep 21, 2023 8:50 am

MichaelMD wrote: ↑Wed Sep 20, 2023 8:48 pm CW quality is good, but not up there with Tudor in my opinion. I'd put it more in line with a Longines or a higher priced Seiko, and I don't mean that as a negative. If CW would move toward in-house movements they'd be right with Tudor. Tudor movements are just fantastic.

I beg to differ - published figures show that for at least five years after the change over in 2016 secondhand prices for BB's with the ETA 2824 consistently exceeded those achieved by the MT5652 by 32%. Tudor movements are fantastic . . . . but then so are the ETA 2824/Sellita SW200 and the steel, glass and other fiddly bits they come in made by CWL are 1/4 the price of the Hans Wilsdorf Foundation product!

d15unk · Post by **d15unk** » Thu Sep 21, 2023 11:01 am

I think I will go with the 40mm C60 after looking up
Lug2lug on both my 40mm timex expedition & the C60 the c60 is shorter by 1.6mm. So think the 40mm will be perfect.

Also have seen a few 38mm with aftermarket rubber straps on & the 20mm strap width looks a bit wide for the dial… just my opinion

cmpic · Post by **cmpic** » Thu Sep 21, 2023 11:21 am

38mm on a diver may look too small as the bezel eats into the crystal size. Even on the 40mm the viewing window (the crystal size) is quite small at just over 30mm. So as people have said go for the 40mm.

JAFO · Post by **JAFO** » Thu Sep 21, 2023 11:44 am

NigelS wrote: ↑Thu Sep 21, 2023 8:50 am
MichaelMD wrote: ↑Wed Sep 20, 2023 8:48 pm CW quality is good, but not up there with Tudor in my opinion. I'd put it more in line with a Longines or a higher priced Seiko, and I don't mean that as a negative. If CW would move toward in-house movements they'd be right with Tudor. Tudor movements are just fantastic.
I beg to differ - published figures show that for at least five years after the change over in 2016 secondhand prices for BB's with the ETA 2824 consistently exceeded those achieved by the MT5652 by 32%. Tudor movements are fantastic . . . . but then so are the ETA 2824/Sellita SW200 and the steel, glass and other fiddly bits they come in made by CWL are 1/4 the price of the Hans Wilsdorf Foundation product!

Well that's part of the Rolex/Tudor effect I imagine.

Pre-owned goods depreciate over time is generally the way of the world. Assuming that this is not the case for Rolex group products may be true now, but may not always be true. I find CW watches are priced at at a level that gives me a great level of quality and therefore value for money.

I posted this elsewhere here yesterday, which I found interesting. (and I still can't get it to embed!)
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwQVhRbB2YM&t=14s[/youtube]

ha-ha. Got it. I had to delete the &t=14s from the link!

NigelS · Post by **NigelS** » Thu Sep 21, 2023 4:34 pm

JAFO wrote: ↑Thu Sep 21, 2023 11:44 am
NigelS wrote: ↑Thu Sep 21, 2023 8:50 am
MichaelMD wrote: ↑Wed Sep 20, 2023 8:48 pm CW quality is good, but not up there with Tudor in my opinion. I'd put it more in line with a Longines or a higher priced Seiko, and I don't mean that as a negative. If CW would move toward in-house movements they'd be right with Tudor. Tudor movements are just fantastic.
I beg to differ - published figures show that for at least five years after the change over in 2016 secondhand prices for BB's with the ETA 2824 consistently exceeded those achieved by the MT5652 by 32%. Tudor movements are fantastic . . . . but then so are the ETA 2824/Sellita SW200 and the steel, glass and other fiddly bits they come in made by CWL are 1/4 the price of the Hans Wilsdorf Foundation product!
Well that's part of the Rolex/Tudor effect I imagine.

Pre-owned goods depreciate over time is generally the way of the world. Assuming that this is not the case for Rolex group products may be true now, but may not always be true. I find CW watches are priced at at a level that gives me a great level of quality an therefore value for money.

I posted this elsewhere here yesterday, which I found interesting. (and I still can't get it to embed!)
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwQVhRbB2YM&t=14s[/youtube]

ha-ha. Got it. I had to delete the &t=14s from the link!

This video should be made compulsory viewing for anyone putting Rolex/Tudors on Non CW of the day

MarkingTime · Post by **MarkingTime** » Thu Sep 21, 2023 6:22 pm

d15unk wrote: ↑Wed Sep 20, 2023 4:29 pm Hi first time poster on here

Over the last few months I have tried on various watches & watched countless you tube reviews on watches. But now my heat is finally set on a C60 trident pro 300 (black dial) this is going to be a gift to myself for my 40th birthday. I just have a few questions I need answered…

Size I plan to buy the 40mm, but am a bit torn between that & the 38mm due to my wrist size. I don’t want something to big or to small. I could just order one try & send it back if the fit is not right

Also I have heard people have had a bad experience with their watches/orders. I know this happens with anything people buy. But would like to know peoples overall experience with CW?

Final question, without seeing the C60 in person, what would you rate the overall quality of the watch Like? I have heard people saying it’s up there with Tudor watches & Also heard that once you own a CW your realise why would you pay 3 or 4 more times the cost for a watch…

Any help would be fantastic

I am really looking forward to ordering & owning a CW watch

For a diver and your wrist size I'd say 40mm would be fine, probably the sweet spot for most wrist sizes.

JAFO · Post by **JAFO** » Thu Sep 21, 2023 7:13 pm

d15unk wrote: ↑Wed Sep 20, 2023 9:01 pm My plan was to add the hybrid strap, like you say to change things up every so often. I understand what you mean by quality ect. If they had their own in house movement like Tudor you wouldn’t be paying sub £1000 for the C60….
I also believe that the Sellita movement is easy to service and will last a long time if well maintained?

What size is the Tudor out of interest. That looks a good size. Is that 39mm?

Everybody recommends buying a bracelet. You can always buy an aftermarket strap but you generally can't always get a bracelet other than from the watchmaker.

Mind you, CW hybrid straps are great. I think they are better than the after market suppliers. The black is good, but if you want a pop of colour there's black and red, or black and orange.

d15unk · Post by **d15unk** » Thu Sep 21, 2023 7:30 pm

JAFO wrote: ↑Thu Sep 21, 2023 7:13 pm
d15unk wrote: ↑Wed Sep 20, 2023 9:01 pm My plan was to add the hybrid strap, like you say to change things up every so often. I understand what you mean by quality ect. If they had their own in house movement like Tudor you wouldn’t be paying sub £1000 for the C60….
I also believe that the Sellita movement is easy to service and will last a long time if well maintained?
What size is the Tudor out of interest. That looks a good size. Is that 39mm?

Everybody recommends buying a bracelet. You can always buy an aftermarket strap but you generally can't always get a bracelet other than from the watchmaker.

Mind you, CW hybrid straps are great. I think they are better than the after market suppliers. The black is good, but if you want a pop of colour there's black and red, or black and orange.

Hi ye it’s the 39mm pelagos, the lug2lug on the pelagos is 47mm, so it’s just slightly shorter than the 40mm C60

From what I’ve watched and read up on watches everyone says get it on a bracelet, whether you plan to wear in on a bracelet or not. So I was planning on getting the bracelet. I couldn’t see the 20mm black/red hybrid on the CW website looks like it was only available in 22mm

nbg · Post by **nbg** » Thu Sep 21, 2023 10:12 pm

NigelS wrote: ↑Thu Sep 21, 2023 4:34 pm
JAFO wrote: ↑Thu Sep 21, 2023 11:44 am
NigelS wrote: ↑Thu Sep 21, 2023 8:50 am

I beg to differ - published figures show that for at least five years after the change over in 2016 secondhand prices for BB's with the ETA 2824 consistently exceeded those achieved by the MT5652 by 32%. Tudor movements are fantastic . . . . but then so are the ETA 2824/Sellita SW200 and the steel, glass and other fiddly bits they come in made by CWL are 1/4 the price of the Hans Wilsdorf Foundation product!
Well that's part of the Rolex/Tudor effect I imagine.

Pre-owned goods depreciate over time is generally the way of the world. Assuming that this is not the case for Rolex group products may be true now, but may not always be true. I find CW watches are priced at at a level that gives me a great level of quality an therefore value for money.

I posted this elsewhere here yesterday, which I found interesting. (and I still can't get it to embed!)
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwQVhRbB2YM&t=14s[/youtube]

ha-ha. Got it. I had to delete the &t=14s from the link!

This video should be made compulsory viewing for anyone putting Rolex/Tudors on Non CW of the day

It’s ok I have already watched it!

I have been wearing my “best value” watch a lot over the past few weeks and will continue to do so, albeit I didn’t get around to posting any pics in Non CW of the day.

Neil

d15unk · Post by **d15unk** » Sat Nov 04, 2023 7:49 pm

So here it is my C60 in all its glory and my current collection

Loving the bond nato on it

missF · Post by **missF** » Sat Nov 04, 2023 9:31 pm

Congratulations - it looks great. Also adds to a nice balanced collection. Two slots left. Until you need to add another watch box

Doogie · Post by **Doogie** » Tue Nov 07, 2023 1:02 pm

Looks good on the nato strap . . . . I'm liking your Timex expedition too, a must have for any collection

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