Spytap wrote: ↑Wed Sep 06, 2023 4:59 pm
Maybe it’s the lighting, but I’m not seeing the sunburst pattern on the dial as shown in marketing pics. It looks very flat and single-hue.
Also, just out of curiosity, what did you mean about the bracelet feeling flimsy and cheap - was it just the weight, or is there something about the construction/finish that bothered you?
The sunburst pattern is very faintly visible on the upper right side... in reality it's quite subtle anyway.... still lovely on my original blue though
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kiter65 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 06, 2023 8:31 pm
I’ve never made a comment on this but I can’t be the only one who thinks this is hideous, these real life pics only conform this
I wore mine to a local watch enthusiasts (RedBar) event last weekend, and that certainly wasn't the consensus there. I was almost mobbed by people wanting to see it, try it and ask questions about it... quite a few had it on order and were now extra excited to receive it (even despite the delays)
There were tons of super high end watches there too, and the Bel Canto still was very well received
As with all things though, it's all ultimately personal taste
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As with all things though, it's all ultimately personal taste
Exactly. If we all liked the same thing the world would be a very dull place. I don't love the Bel Canto, but I do like that it exists. If owning one brings pleasure, that's surely a nice thing.
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kiter65 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 06, 2023 8:31 pm
I’ve never made a comment on this but I can’t be the only one who thinks this is hideous, these real life pics only conform this
I wore mine to a local watch enthusiasts (RedBar) event last weekend, and that certainly wasn't the consensus there. I was almost mobbed by people wanting to see it, try it and ask questions about it... quite a few had it on order and were now extra excited to receive it (even despite the delays)
There were tons of super high end watches there too, and the Bel Canto still was very well received
As with all things though, it's all ultimately personal taste
Yep I agree. It’s a watch that makes me smile.
I can think of at least three Rolex I would sell before I even thought of selling my Azzurro Bel Canto…
One which is Richard’s favourite Rolex.
A watch I haven’t worn this year…
There are no right or wrong answers. It just comes down to what watches do it for you.
Well there is a ‘wrong answer’ - it is usually given by someone who thinks Rolex is just a brand and the watches are overrated!
Or someone that thinks you can’t tell the time on a Bel Canto.
Neil
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ralfybaby wrote: ↑Fri Sep 08, 2023 6:08 pm
I actually think it is kind of cute but I have no need for an hourly chime watch, what's it called, "rattrapante" I believe……
A rattrapante is a double chronograph. Like a normal chronograph but it has two seconds hands. You stop one and the other keeps going, then when you release the stopped hand it catches up with the main one and continues to time. It’s used as a split or lap function when timing.
The chiming thing is known as a sonnerie.
Rattrapante and sonnerie probably mean something in another language as I suspect they are not just made up words, but there’s more cunning linguists than me on here who might be able to confirm this.
Misinformation on top of other misinformation. A rattrapante refers to a flyback mechanism so on a rattrapante chronograph, the chrono seconds returns to zero then immediately runs without reset. What you described is called a split seconds not a rattrapante though it is possible to have both at once.
Also, anything that chimes is indeed called a sonnerie but there are multiple types based on what the chiming represents. This is an hour chimer that dings once on the hour so thereby a sonnerie au passage. There are petite sonneries and grand sonneries that also chime on the hour but actually denotes the hours and quarter hours.
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ralfybaby wrote: ↑Fri Sep 08, 2023 6:08 pm
I actually think it is kind of cute but I have no need for an hourly chime watch, what's it called, "rattrapante" I believe……
A rattrapante is a double chronograph. Like a normal chronograph but it has two seconds hands. You stop one and the other keeps going, then when you release the stopped hand it catches up with the main one and continues to time. It’s used as a split or lap function when timing.
The chiming thing is known as a sonnerie.
Rattrapante and sonnerie probably mean something in another language as I suspect they are not just made up words, but there’s more cunning linguists than me on here who might be able to confirm this.
Misinformation on top of other misinformation. A rattrapante refers to a flyback mechanism so on a rattrapante chronograph, the chrono seconds returns to zero then immediately runs without reset. What you described is called a split seconds not a rattrapante though it is possible to have both at once.
Also, anything that chimes is indeed called a sonnerie but there are multiple types based on what the chiming represents. This is an hour chimer that dings once on the hour so thereby a sonnerie au passage. There are petite sonneries and grand sonneries that also chime on the hour but actually denotes the hours and quarter hours.
Apologies if I have this incorrect. I understood the rattrapante to be as I described and also as described in this blog post
I thought the fly back chronograph you describe as a rattrapante was simply known as a fly back chronograph as that is how IWC refer to it on their website.
Iain’s Law: Any discussion on the Christopher Ward forum, irrespective of the thread title or subject matter, will eventually lead to someone mentioning the Bel Canto if the thread continues for long enough.
That video is helpful. The original pic made the watch look pretty drab and one dimensional. My immediate thought was that a darker background is needed as a contrast for the dial design. However, the video does show the way the the light reacts to the dial and brings it to life a little. Probably best bought and worn in a sunny climate.
Nothing wrong with that bracelet - if it were a Seiko 5!
Checked the concept one, way nicer. The Compressor one is very similar to the Bel Canto
And while I'm up a ladder today trimming the hedge so just be fully focussed on what I'm doing, I will instead be looking for ways in which the Compressor and BC are very similar.
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kiter65 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 06, 2023 8:31 pm
I’ve never made a comment on this but I can’t be the only one who thinks this is hideous, these real life pics only conform this
I wouldn't say hideous, but I'm also not a fan. The color in particular is a negative for me. Darker colors seem to work better on this watch.
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Quite sophisticated complications, but I’m afraid the French words used to describe them are quite common.
“Rattraper” means to catch up. You will see that the English word trap is related to it. In the French school where I worked you could end up supervising “cours de rattrapage” - catch up lessons for kids who were behind with work.
“Son” just means sound, so in reality “sonnerie” is used for all sorts of things that make a sound, such as telephones for example. Though I suspect that given the French propensity to dilute their own language they probably called that “Le Ringtone” nowadays. Mind you, we do the same thing - “hour strike” would make much more sense to most anglophones than “sonnerie au passage”.
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DiigerDofs wrote: ↑Sat Sep 16, 2023 1:49 am
Well it’s back at CW 3 to 5 WD for credit. Will go 1/2 way to the BMW R12000RS I have my eye on and the Concept all the way
Nice example of perspective.
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Thank you DiigerDofs for sharing your hands-on experience with the watch and the return process. It's good to know that CW actually started delivering watches and at least this is not a quality control issue.
I have a purple one on order, now I'm mentally prepared to receive something light-weight, and despite fully capable of keeping good time, will struggle to tell the wearer about it.
btw I didn't know that BMW made watches...
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DiigerDofs wrote: ↑Sat Sep 16, 2023 1:49 am
Well it’s back at CW 3 to 5 WD for credit. Will go 1/2 way to the BMW R12000RS I have my eye on and the Concept all the way
Nice example of perspective.
Yup. Just goes to show what stunning value the #BelCanto is, but if it's not for you, it's not for you.
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I can think of at least three Rolex I would sell before I even thought of selling my Azzurro Bel Canto…
Or someone that thinks you can’t tell the time on a Bel Canto.
Azzurro is very significantly nicer than the pale blue though. I have Azzurro and have seen the other colours IRL. Azzurro is the best of the bunch IMO, with green following, then purple. IMO anyway.
Legibility is very poor on these though to be fair though. It's hard to tell the time at a glance, as the hands and bridges are so similar.
ralfybaby wrote: ↑Fri Sep 08, 2023 6:08 pm
I actually think it is kind of cute but I have no need for an hourly chime watch, what's it called, "rattrapante" I believe……
A rattrapante is a double chronograph. Like a normal chronograph but it has two seconds hands. You stop one and the other keeps going, then when you release the stopped hand it catches up with the main one and continues to time. It’s used as a split or lap function when timing.
How cool! Probably an expensive complication ....
The chiming thing is known as a sonnerie.
Rattrapante and sonnerie probably mean something in another language as I suspect they are not just made up words, but there’s more cunning linguists than me on here who might be able to confirm this.
My school french was not good enough for "rattrapante" but as per Mr. Google: “'Rattrapante' is a French word deriving from 'rattraper' meaning 'to catch up or recapture'.
A sonnerie is just something that makes sounds. Like a chime I guess
and the Concept all the way
How cool! Probably an expensive complication .... 