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Re: alignement second hand and minute hand

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Quite right, Graham. Is there another way to do it? :ka:
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You could always buy a radio controlled, solar powered, talking watch if you can,t set a watch properly. :lol:
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tikkathree wrote:
robinbarke wrote:I agree with the op. But it's not only Forum members that misalign. The CW website presents misaligned watches and some of the big brands advertising in the national press overlook this simple irritation!

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Yeah right me too! :lol: :lol:

And while we're mourning the decline of decadent Western civilisation how can it be right that a sweep second hand, taking its sixty short paces around the dial sometimes points exactly to a minute marker on the dial and sometimes points in between 'em? Huh? Huh? Tell me the answer to that one! :oops: :lol: :silent: :clap: :lol:
I think you are talking about cheap quartz watches. No quality piece would behave like this!

When it comes to alignment of minute and second hand on a mechanical watch my view has a simple heritage. A watch is a precision instrument. The movement has been created by master craftsmen who have inherited 100's of years experience from their predecessors and they are now able to achieve incredible accuracy through this endowment at an astonishingly reasonable price. I think, therefore, we all have to play our part by taking good care of our watches, keeping them in an appropriate environment, carefully setting hands in alignment to show off the piece at its very best. This pays homage to its creator and invokes the feel good factor within the owner. If these things are not important to you why would you wish to own one of the most remarkable and enduring inventions of all time?

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Re: alignement second hand and minute hand

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robinbarke wrote:
tikkathree wrote:
robinbarke wrote:I agree with the op. But it's not only Forum members that misalign. The CW website presents misaligned watches and some of the big brands advertising in the national press overlook this simple irritation!

Robin
Yeah right me too! :lol: :lol:

And while we're mourning the decline of decadent Western civilisation how can it be right that a sweep second hand, taking its sixty short paces around the dial sometimes points exactly to a minute marker on the dial and sometimes points in between 'em? Huh? Huh? Tell me the answer to that one! :oops: :lol: :silent: :clap: :lol:
I think you are talking about cheap quartz watches. No quality piece would behave like this!

When it comes to alignment of minute and second hand on a mechanical watch my view has a simple heritage. A watch is a precision instrument. The movement has been created by master craftsmen who have inherited 100's of years experience from their predecessors and they are now able to achieve incredible accuracy through this endowment at an astonishingly reasonable price. I think, therefore, we all have to play our part by taking good care of our watches, keeping them in an appropriate environment, carefully setting hands in alignment to show off the piece at its very best. This pays homage to its creator and invokes the feel good factor within the owner. If these things are not important to you why would you wish to own one of the most remarkable and enduring inventions of all time?

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robinbarke wrote:
tikkathree wrote:
robinbarke wrote:I agree with the op. But it's not only Forum members that misalign. The CW website presents misaligned watches and some of the big brands advertising in the national press overlook this simple irritation!

Robin
Yeah right me too! :lol: :lol:

And while we're mourning the decline of decadent Western civilisation how can it be right that a sweep second hand, taking its sixty short paces around the dial sometimes points exactly to a minute marker on the dial and sometimes points in between 'em? Huh? Huh? Tell me the answer to that one! :oops: :lol: :silent: :clap: :lol:
I think you are talking about cheap quartz watches. No quality piece would behave like this!

When it comes to alignment of minute and second hand on a mechanical watch my view has a simple heritage. A watch is a precision instrument. The movement has been created by master craftsmen who have inherited 100's of years experience from their predecessors and they are now able to achieve incredible accuracy through this endowment at an astonishingly reasonable price. I think, therefore, we all have to play our part by taking good care of our watches, keeping them in an appropriate environment, carefully setting hands in alignment to show off the piece at its very best. This pays homage to its creator and invokes the feel good factor within the owner. If these things are not important to you why would you wish to own one of the most remarkable and enduring inventions of all time?

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Because I like them.

Normally I agree with you Robin, but I am not disrespecting the watch just because I couldn't give a rats as to whether it is accurate to the second, or that it matters not a jot to me whether I set and align the hands exactly.

The watch gets picked up, hands set to roughly the right time and so long as it is still roughly correct at the end of the day all is good.

Maybe it is because I do not have any really expensive watches, but all this accuracy stuff just makes me want to scream.

A watch is an amazing thing and I both love and appreciate them, but that is it.

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smegwina wrote:
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...I couldn't give a rats as to whether it is accurate to the second...

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...all this accuracy stuff just makes me want to scream...
Same here :clap: :clap:

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Scrogg wrote:
smegwina wrote:
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...I couldn't give a rats as to whether it is accurate to the second...

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...all this accuracy stuff just makes me want to scream...
Same here :clap: :clap:

Thank you! :thumbup:
This is interesting. Is it the norm for most watch fans not to be fussed about accuracy?
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One of the things that I most enjoy about mechanical watches is the intimacy with time that they bring to the user. This is just me. Some people don't care at all about that. This is one reason that my favorite movements are daily wind mechanicals, rather than automatics. I enjoy setting my watch. It's part of my routine when choosing and putting on the watch in the morning. Am I obsessed with accuracy? No. I wouldn't say that, but some would say I am. I am greatly intrigued by accuracy. I like knowing where my different watch movements are in terms of accuracy. I meticulously set the watch in the morning and I check its accuracy at the end of the day when I remove it. For me, my mood and enjoyment of the watch do not directly correspond to its accuracy however. I prefer a fast watch to a slow watch. I enjoy the whole process.


As with any hobby, people have different aspects that they enjoy and different aspects that they ignore. Accuracy is just a part of watch collecting. Some care about it, others don't.

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MadJam250 wrote:This is interesting. Is it the norm for most watch fans not to be fussed about accuracy?
Doubt it...

Some care, some don't, some are borderline obsessive.

Just like cardboard boxes really! :P
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Scrogg wrote:
MadJam250 wrote:This is interesting. Is it the norm for most watch fans not to be fussed about accuracy?
Doubt it...

Some care, some don't, some are borderline obsessive.

Just like cardboard boxes really! :P
"Some are borderline obsessive".

Most seem to be in the nutter camp. There is a discussion on here about which way to lay the watch to speed/slow the timing to ensure accuracy for goodness sake. :shock:

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I don't think it's right to mock people who like a bit of accuracy. COSC wouldn't exist if accuracy wasn't an issue for some.

For me, personally, spot on accuracy isn't a big deal, although some deal of accuracy is necessary (to make it on time for meetings, shows, trains etc) .. other wise why do we own a watch or few (with at least 3 hands)? Ok, I have recently acquired a Slimline that is unbelievably accurate, which I find interesting considering the engineering aspect and how a mechanical movement can stay so accurate for so long, but if ran slow or fast, with tollearances, it'd not bother me. But for some, it does. Each to their own of course.
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smegwina wrote:There is a discussion on here about which way to lay the watch to speed/slow the timing to ensure accuracy for goodness sake. :shock:
Yes...and some of the manufacturers we all go on about adjust their watches to 6 positions. If it's going to do a job it might as well do it properly.
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And I started this only on mis-alignment of hands... :D
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GMT+1 wrote:And I started this only on mis-alignment of hands... :D
At least accuracy is vaguely related to the original topic...

Some threads have gone off on some very strange tangents recently! :shock: :P
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Amor Vincit Omnia wrote:
smegwina wrote:There is a discussion on here about which way to lay the watch to speed/slow the timing to ensure accuracy for goodness sake. :shock:
Yes...and some of the manufacturers we all go on about adjust their watches to 6 positions. If it's going to do a job it might as well do it properly.
Do they!!! Blimey. Look, if people want their watches to be super accurate then that is entirely up to them. It is something that I am not really bothered by, but then these things just don't bother me. My c60 bezel is misaligned and it does not bother me, but I know that I am rare in this case as well!!!

It is not my intention to offend, and each to their own. I do understand the need for a certain level of accuracy that is required for daily use, but the quest for the split second accuracy is not something that I will be pursuing!

I do wonder if it is dependant on the collection. Maybe if I had a more exotic collection (or indeed sone vintage) then I would take more of an interest in their timekeeping.

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