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I´m a competitive shooter and a firearms instuctor. Currently I dont hunt, and never have, but I could if I wanted (read needed to), that´s my point.

Without a watch You cant tell time, without a flashlight You dont see in the dark and without a rifle You cant hunt. All are tools of a trade, not tools for insane people. Better to have and not need than to need and not have.

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Moving on, though... nice watch and good pictures, JackWorm! :D
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Never has a thread moved so far offtopic in so many directions! :lol:

Back ontopic...ish, what's the general consensus, Orange or Yellow?

I've always been fond of a bit of Custard myself! I think I prefer your new yellow C6.
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wymore wrote:So what's the deal with the Byrd knife not being allowed in the UK? Is that because of the blade length or because it is a locking blade?
Here's a short summary of UK knife law for anyone interested. I think this one would be affected because of the blade length.
JackWorm wrote:Better to have and not need than to need and not have.
... better still not to need or to have.
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Mortis wrote:......

I'm also not sure why people are so against "new" degrees in relevant areas these days. I personally think a degree in Automotive Engineering or Product Design is probably of more direct use than a degree in, say, English Literature. It's just complaints from oldies who did irrelevant degrees and got a nice job because fewer than 10% of people had higher education back then. Nowadays, with close to 50% going to university, you'd better choose your course wisely. This can only make for a better work force and stronger economy.
Automotive Engineering & Product Design - I fully agree. I can even understand someone benefiting from a degree in Sports Coaching Science, but Media Studies or Adventure Education?

There are a lot of kids going to university now who will end up £30 - 40K in debt and working in a burger bar simply because they have a degree with little relevance to the real world.

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well I'm not old and my irrelevant degree was dentistry...I still say there is way too much emphasis on EVERYONE going to Uni, many to get useless pseudo-degrees while vocational courses wither away...
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Robin CB wrote:Automotive Engineering & Product Design - I fully agree. I can even understand someone benefiting from a degree in Sports Coaching Science, but Media Studies...?
What, you mean like famous television celebrity, broadcaster and journalist Charlie Brooker (who took Media Studies at the Polytechnic of Central London - now the University of Westminster)? \:D/
Robin CB wrote:There are a lot of kids going to university now who will end up £30 - 40K in debt and working in a burger bar simply because they have a degree with little relevance to the real world.
Hmm, my degree had no relevance to the real world - it was in Pure Mathematics - but I have never struggled to find good jobs! My wife, on the other hand, has a degree (and Masters) in Engineering from Cambridge, but she used to work for McDonald's. (Part time while she was at school)
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I hasten to add, that in all this, I am just playing the Forum Menace. :twisted:

I did a traditional degree (Maths) at an old university (then did a post-grad at Fens Poly, heh), and I teach in a very good school, so I am very much of the old-school thinking of traditional degrees that are worthwhile, for people who get good results at school (say, B's and higher, for example - remember that 25% of A levels are now grade A).
I have no objection to people being trained and getting qualifications for their careers, but I do think that the current trend of labelling all qualifications as "the same" (i.e. a "degree" or "equivalent to two A levels" (in the latter case you can genuinely do such a qualification in car park attending)) is pointless and only designed to placate the vociferous masses of underachievers who have often been failed by a poor education system. No one genuinely thinks that a degree in adventure studies is equivalent to a degree in medicine (actually, I take that back - a chap I met on a course once was convinced that his 79% final degree score (we didn't get percentages in my day!) in American Studies from Brunel was better than a colleague's 78% in Natural Sciences from Cambridge. One of these chaps had a D and 2 E's at A level; the other had five grade A's.).


Anyway, academic snobbery aside, I quite like JackWorm's watch and his pictures :D
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Robin CB wrote:
Mortis wrote:......

I'm also not sure why people are so against "new" degrees in relevant areas these days. I personally think a degree in Automotive Engineering or Product Design is probably of more direct use than a degree in, say, English Literature. It's just complaints from oldies who did irrelevant degrees and got a nice job because fewer than 10% of people had higher education back then. Nowadays, with close to 50% going to university, you'd better choose your course wisely. This can only make for a better work force and stronger economy.
Automotive Engineering & Product Design - I fully agree. I can even understand someone benefiting from a degree in Sports Coaching Science, but Media Studies or Adventure Education?

There are a lot of kids going to university now who will end up £30 - 40K in debt and working in a burger bar simply because they have a degree with little relevance to the real world.

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The problem isn't really one of relevance, it's more about supply outstripping demand; there's an interesting phenomena called credential inflation. This raises the required upper qualification required for a job as employers seek to find the best qualified. A while back a degree was relatively rare and it was therefore easy for employers to choose from a smaller pool; now there are more and more people gaining degrees and it therefore it loses it's exclusivity. I graduated in the 80s when Higher Education was a world away from the process my kids are going through. Since then I've worked almost exclusively in Education both as a lecturer and as a careers / welfare adviser, so I've seen how radically things have changed. Back then a Masters was very rare, but now everyone seems to be doing an MA in something or other.

I would still argue that the degree subject has little relevance unless the chosen career has a specific preferred qualification. Other than that it's about the work the student puts in and the grade they end up with that really counts. A poor degree is a poor degree whatever the subject.

In the UK we make a load of money from the media industry; it's one of our biggest foreign currency earners, but as it's often not seen as a "proper job" successive governments have failed to support it. Adventure / Outdoor pursuits have become a major part of the leisure industry in the UK and there's money to be made from those services. I friend of mine runs a business running staff development days to big multinationals, and uses the profit to offer outdoor activities to kids from poor backgrounds.

Helena Kennedy produced a report on widening participation in Further and Higher Education in 1997; it's still valid and reflects many of the issues we now face. The most interesting was her assertion that the HE system put too much store in degrees at the expense of more practically focused HNDs; that is reflected by the regular complaints from industry about the problems they have recruiting specialists.

From my perspective the saddest loss in education has been the move away from study for the sake of it. Education is now focused purely on attainment from the earliest ages right up to university; that's the reason for the perception that modern GCSE / A'level students aren't as well educated as their forebears. In fact they're very well educated in the art of passing exams, and are encouraged to think about their study in those terms. I was part of a lucky generation where teachers had more time and flexibility.

The other more annoying change is the shift in emphasis that places the full responsibility on the student to train themselves up to be the best candidate for an employer. The employer has been allowed to fall into the mindset of looking for fully formed employees who come with minimal training needs. It makes me angry when employers complain about the lack of trained staff and blame everyone and their uncle, but would never even consider taking on someone and training them from scratch and investing in their education.

As for guns and knives and the coming apocalypse, count me out. If you can't get a good latte and there's nowhere to charge my MacBook then I have no interest in surviving. A world in which Star Trek Enterprise and Jolene Blalock's breasts aren't on TV everyday is not the world for me thanks.
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Still running OT:
I am a non university educated old git who has to deal with some of the bright young things.
I think... OUTSIDE the professions (Law/medicine/etc)... good degrees prove, if anything, that, if you apply yourself, you are really good at learning. If you continue to apply yourself after getting the 2:1 - in the real world - you can outstrip the person with 3/5 years of real-world experience. It depends on the individual. If the subject happens to be relevant to the job that can be a bonus in your late 20s and early 30s.

Yes rygel (and please forgive me for paraphrasing/twisting what you said) kids are being trained to pass exams - but it at least proves they can learn to think/process/adapt - useful traits for an employer willing then to train them in the company's or industry's ways.
rygel16th wrote: A world in which... Jolene Blalock's breasts aren't on TV everyday is not the world for me thanks.
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Nothing like a bit of plastic fantastic, hey guys!
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Well, I've learnt something from this thread. Those nerds were right all along.

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Was this not a thread about a C6? :-k
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paw3001 wrote:Nothing like a bit of plastic fantastic, hey guys!
They're real apparently. I also prefer her dressed as a Vulcan. :?

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hmm... we could steer back to watches via Jeri Ryan, she was at least partly technological! :lol:
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rygel16th wrote:
paw3001 wrote:Nothing like a bit of plastic fantastic, hey guys!
They're real apparently.
If they are, get her to a physicist quick as they seem to defy gravity!!
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