Excellent pick up Richard! Great pictures too. I like the size of this one and I recall reading somewhere that the valgranges movement inside it was made specifically to be cased in larger sized watches. May be wrong but I do hope to see this movement used again in the CWL line up. Enjoy the new acquisition.

jmarchitect wrote:Excellent pick up Richard! Great pictures too. I like the size of this one and I recall reading somewhere that the valgranges movement inside it was made specifically to be cased in larger sized watches. May be wrong but I do hope to see this movement used again in the CWL line up. Enjoy the new acquisition.

The Valgranges movements are one of ETA's most recent designs to meet the needs of ever bigger watches. Your pictures do more for this watches appeal than the website and for me it is a clear winner over the black. Good to see the power reserve relegated to a supporting role. The noise issue is quite alarming if the maxim, noise equals wear, is relevant here. I have never heard the rotor on any of my autos but that probably says more about my hearing than the quality of the watches!

Robin

jmarchitect wrote:Excellent pick up Richard! Great pictures too. I like the size of this one and I recall reading somewhere that the valgranges movement inside it was made specifically to be cased in larger sized watches. May be wrong but I do hope to see this movement used again in the CWL line up. Enjoy the new acquisition.

Chris Ward had previously replied to an email of mine to say that the movement size meant it couldn't fit into a smaller case.

ianblyth wrote:Looks nicer than the black version. I had the black C90 last summer and sent it back for various design features that I did not like.

+1. Still not totally convinced but the white one looks much better.....

downer wrote: Yes, although it is not a valjoux movement, I believe the valgranges range is derived from the valjoux, and it appears to share the noisy rotor and strong centrifugal force. Generally, I don't have a problem with the valjoux wobble, but this particular movement does seem quite noisy, with a vibration in the rotor. I wonder if there is a bigger problem with this one, but time will tell.

I'd be interested to hear what other owners feel about their ETA A07.161 movements...

Just had another shake/listen to this movement, and I have concluded that it is not really any more or less noisy than any of my other watches. It does have the 'pendulum' effect that characterises the 7750, but I like that.

In addition, although I did not wear it today, I just checked the timing, and since setting it about 24 hours ago, it is pretty much bang-on!

Good looking watch, much nicer than black dial version with its gaping white gob!
Exceptional photos , as always.

That does look good, the white dial looks like it has been carved from ivory in some of the pics.

Yes, I'm on the side of those who prefer the white to the black.
I think this is because the power reserve dial is less obtrusive, which rather points to it being a weakness of the design - to my eyes it doesn't integrate really well in either model.

downer wrote:

downer wrote: Yes, although it is not a valjoux movement, I believe the valgranges range is derived from the valjoux, and it appears to share the noisy rotor and strong centrifugal force. Generally, I don't have a problem with the valjoux wobble, but this particular movement does seem quite noisy, with a vibration in the rotor. I wonder if there is a bigger problem with this one, but time will tell.

I'd be interested to hear what other owners feel about their ETA A07.161 movements...

Just had another shake/listen to this movement, and I have concluded that it is not really any more or less noisy than any of my other watches. It does have the 'pendulum' effect that characterises the 7750, but I like that.

In addition, although I did not wear it today, I just checked the timing, and since setting it about 24 hours ago, it is pretty much bang-on!

Wow. Wow. Wow. Downer, your photos have cemented it for me. I definitely want one of these beauts! I definitely like the white / ivory treatment better than the black. The power reserve feature works better with the rest of the piece when it's not so loudly prominent. Sadly, I just don't think I can spring for it right now even at the reduced NN price. Maybe temptation will get the better of me. I noticed that they're still up there on the site.

I am not familiar at all with the wobble, although a little bit of Interweb research leads me to believe that it wouldn't be much of an issue for me.

I really really really want one.

I've been thinking about it and i've come to the conclusion that i prefer the white faced model....always liked these right from seeing the protype at a GTG.

By the way,over 12 hours on TZ and the usual suspects hacen't waded in with their usual comments yet!...must be a record.

Peteo wrote: I am not familiar at all with the wobble, although a little bit of Interweb research leads me to believe that it wouldn't be much of an issue for me.

Ah...the wobble is what it's all about

village wrote: By the way,over 12 hours on TZ and the usual suspects hacen't waded in with their usual comments yet!...must be a record.

Give them time....

The general response is quite positive over there. Of course there are people who don't like this or that detail, but that's the nature of the beast.

For those interested, here's the thread.

I wish you guys would get on and buy the rest of the NN ones - I'm struggling with temptation here and the sale site still says in stock!!
Definitely like the white face a lot better than the black... and these pictures reinforce that.

Bonny wrote:I wish you guys would get on and buy the rest of the NN ones - I'm struggling with temptation here and the sale site still says in stock!!
Definitely like the white face a lot better than the black... and these pictures reinforce that.

Go for it Bonny! You don't have one and it will fit nicely with your collection.

You are a lucky man. I simply love this watch and desperately wanted to get a nn myself. Even came close to selling a nice oris to fund it until I was talked out of it! Like others would prefer it in 38-40mm but that wont stop me from getting one eventually. the excellent pictures have just cemented it further into the must have list! Bought 6cw in the last 12 months but dont care if its only one this year as long as its the white becketts.

Love the Valgranges movement and the c9 case and the ivory 3-d effect of the dial layers, but boy oh boy whose kindergarten designed those those numerals and the face scripting on the "power reserve" ?? Just too clunky for me (even at 30% off NN).... although a matter of personal taste of course - IMHO, the regular c9 looks so much better to my eyes, which is a great pity because I do want this movement!