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COSC Report 2011

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Relative to a recent tweet by Chris.
As we are only 49 chronometers behind Tag for 2011 according to COSC , thought I would launch 2 more today-c50 and c60 http://bit.ly/gJUa2B

COSC REPORT 2011

1 ROLEX 751'285
2 OMEGA 509'301
3 BREITLING 126'155
4 MIDO 49'343
5 PANERAI 34'463
6 CHOPARD 28'641
7 TITONI 20'536
8 ENICAR 17'115
9 ERNEST BOREL 8'372
10 TISSOT 6'917
11 ULYSSE NARDIN 6'695
12 CORUM 6'043
13 BALL WATCH 6'042
14 ZENITH 4'000
ROGER DUBUIS 4'000
JUVENIA 4'000
RADO 4'000
15 BUCHERER 2'559
16 BREMONT 1'000
NORMANA 1'000
OLMA 1'000
17 EBEL 988
18 L.U. CHOPARD 605
19 TAG HEUER 559
20 CENTURY 539
21 BALCO 530
22 MONTBLANC 518
23 CHRISTOPHER WARD 510
CHANEL 510
24 JUNGHANS 437
25 STOWA 425
26 ORIS 421
27 MÜHLE GLASHÜTTEN 326
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Interesting that, even more relevant is the 6900 Tissot chronometers given that TAG isn't really CW's competition.
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Two other interesting observations:

1. The massive gap between the top two and everyone else... :shock:

2. The number of brands on that list that I've personally never heard of... :oops:
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downer wrote:Two other interesting observations:

1. The massive gap between the top two and everyone else... :shock:

2. The number of brands on that list that I've personally never heard of... :oops:
Also, interesting that Bremont only has 1000 movements certified; I've suspected for some time that they've been stockpiling movements rather than buy on demand.
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And NOMOS don't bother...despite the fact that mine is accurate to around one sec/day! :lol:
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Seems a bit of a con nowadays given the quality of most movements, can't see the point in a c60 cosc as mine is only shedding 1-2 seconds a day..
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downer wrote:The number of brands on that list that I've personally never heard of...
Me too. Despite the fact that I read a number of forums. There are obvious WIS favourites in the forums and some makes just don't get a look in. And some that I did not think were in business any more like Enicar.

A round number like 1000 sounds like a special edition to me.

I know that Breitling's policy is to certify every watch so that number equates to the amount that they have made for sale. I am not sure about the rest. Interesting that Tissot (who I did not think did COSC models) are higher than Tag given Tag#s prices and apparent dominance in most Hight Street jewellers.
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I am amazed that TAG and Oris are not higher as they have some of the most accurate movments anyway, maybe they don't care about COSC certs.. marketing with it though surely would have been a selling point?
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Since I wear a watch no more than 2 to 3 days in a row (if at all!) before I rotate and move to another watch, the mechanical watches I have are accurate enough for me.

And yes, my Nomos watches are super-accurate.
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Interesting that CW has sold more quartz COSC than mechanical. If the number quoted is accurate we can
conclude that:

C50 sold 200 LE
C70 sold 310

The well known brands at the top of the list will be all mechanical so maybe the unknown brands are mainly quartz. Puts the volumes in better perspective!


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Amor Vincit Omnia wrote:And NOMOS don't bother...despite the fact that mine is accurate to around one sec/day! :lol:
I think Nomos would have to apply for the German Din standard if they wished to go the certification route as Wempe do.

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From Wikipedia
Founded in its current form in 1973, the COSC is a Swiss non-profit organization that tests Swiss-made chronometers. COSC is an acronym for the organization's French name, Contrôle Officiel Suisse des Chronomètres.
COSC testing generally applies to watches manufactured/assembled in Switzerland.[1] Notwithstanding, the normative standards are set by international agreement and are the same whether they are nominally labeled ISO or DIN standards. Some German, Japanese, and even non-certified Swiss movements can surpass the normative requirements. The Japanese have largely abandoned the accolade, replacing it with in-house testing to a slightly more strict standard as with, for example, the Grand Seiko. On the other hand, the Germans have set up their own testing facility in Saxony at the Glashütte Observatory [2][3] where the DIN 8319 standards, which mirror the ISO standards used by COSC, are employed. At one time the French provided similar large scale testing at the Observatory at Besançon, however, today only a very few watches are currently tested there and carry the accolade "Observatory Chronometer."
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Some fairly "poor" brands on that list and it basically says nothing. As others comment, some brands test everything, others are largely quartz, some don't test much at all (as the COSC certificate isn't worth the cost for an already accurate movement) and others might just be stockpiling movements regardless of watches. Hmmm.
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I'm not surprised we're querying some of the brands on the list - even Google hasn't heard of Normana or Balco watches! :?
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downer wrote:The number of brands on that list that I've personally never heard of...
A couple of things caught my eye, this being one of them, only Olma -which look ok, Normana - which i cant google/find and Balco - same; slipped past me.

and the others being that Bremont only had 1000 watches certified, thought it would be higher. Junvania are still going :shock: and way to go titoni :thumbup: , thats a cool brand operating at just above CWL price levels.
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