I have been trying to keep out of this
but decided I couldn't.
Thedose wrote:The price increase has pushed me away from CWL and now I will be buying a Hamilton jazzmaster instead.
Shame because I was
really in love with the C9 Auto, though, I DO NOT feel it is worth the $540 they are asking. Now knowing about their resale value I won't even think to buy a used one.
Goodbye CWL members it was a pleasure.
Goodbye Time Traveller. As that is your occupation listed in your profile then you should go back in time and buy watches when they were cheaper. I went through your 21 posts. I don’t think that you will be missed.
macka splaff wrote:I can't support unrealistic price hikes.
23 posts
Don't. It is your money and you can spend it however you like. Must be a bummer shopping for food with inflation putting up prices all the time.
macka splaff wrote: I fully accept that over the lifespan of a watch it is a miniscule rise but on principle I cannot support the 10% overnight hikes.
Just as well you don’t buy Omega or Rolex then. But you sig says you do have an Omega.
Do you like their oovernight 10% price rises?
And a few CW in the pipeline.....
Scored out in your sig. Really?
robert_ford wrote:Just purchased a new Steinhart Ocean One for £276 with SS bracelet. CW C60 £460
Sorry but the Steinhart is just better value with a ETA 2842-2 movement.
That must make the C5s at £185 exceptional value then if your criteria is finding that movement as cheap as possible.
Just don't look at Breitlings. Their watches with that movement are all over £2K. Value is more than price. Plus Steinhart is in Euros which have made the price more appeal to the UK Pound.
robert_ford wrote:The ocean one and c60 look nearly the same
I have bought 2 C60s and 2 Ocean Ones. Both Steinharts have been sold but I still have my C60’s. There are similarities (they are both watches for a start
and both divers) but are very different in real life. I have nothing against Steinhart. They make nice watches but the C60 is better for me. And that is the clue. It is a personal thing.
robert_ford wrote:No. Not now that I know of other good watches. I have 5 cw watches , but only found out about the ocean 1 from this forum! If the cw c60 had been around the same price or even a bit More I would have bought it as they offer the 5yr warranty and they are British. I wish cw all the best for the future, but I will now start comparing there products more carefully and not take it for granted that they offer excellent value.
You should always look around and compare. While I like CWL I have many other makes as do most people on this forum. Which is why there is a healthy Other Brands section. They do offer excellent value but they may not fit into your criteria.
robert_ford wrote:CW I feel are at risk of going away from their original philosophy, high quality/ low price. I have written on a few threads about CW and the original reason for starting up. On Ebay now you can get a C5 in gold 2yr old for £105. CW value new £350. When I first bough a C5 it was £195 five years ago. That's 80% in five years. Hugh price increases and very poor resale value. If CW are that good a quality you would expect the resale values to hold.
Shame as I'm not sure what was wrong with the old business model.
Customer service seems also to be getting worse. Just sent my C5 back for a service and Deb quotes 3-4 weeks. Web site says 2 wks. In fact it took CW a week to tell me that so the turn around is actually 4-5 weeks.
What with that and a £2.5K watch coming out I may need to find another watch company as I no longer believe the cost/sale value ratio on the CW web site.
In fact Ebay may become the best way to buy a CW at a reasonable price!
This is the post that annoyed me most.
You have picked one eBay sale and then conjectured that CWLs so not hold their value!
With that grasp of statistics and conjecture I was wondering if you were a politician. As Kip and Downer have said it is not true. With your 17 posts you will not have see the eBay sales in the Sales Corner but I have been tracking CWL eBay sales for a couple of years now. In the early days you could pick up a smallish bargain but in the last year that has gone. That one C5 was an absolute steal and I missed it. It was not gold. it was SS so your price comparisons are all wrong. There have been quite a lot of watches that have sold on eBay for greater than their original price. The forum marmite watch - the C80 Sector - was the first to do so.
As for the £2.5K watch. We said when the Jump Hour came out about who would buy a CWL over £1K. But 200 did. Very fast. There are a lot of watches that I could eye up at £1250 but I would not be comparing like with like. The same with a £2.5K watch. That gets into Omega/Breitling prices BUT their low end simple movement watches. You have to compare like with like.
As for the original philosophy.
CWL - "the cheapest most expensive watches in the world."
http://www.christopherward.co.uk/about_us.html
NOTE – their mission was NOT to create the cheapest watch. If you want a cheap watch go to any local market and pick one up for £5. Or Argos will do a Casio for £9.99 if you want a brand name.
CornishDave wrote:CW have moved away from my budget over the last couple of years so an increase is really irrelevant to me.
Dave has over 1000 posts and has consistently complained about CWL prices. So he can get away with it.
ndabunka wrote:This thread is almost funny. Newbies claiming that they are going to "take their business to Stienhart" and claims of CW thinking it's Hamilton...LOL, jut TOO funny.
You don't like it, shop elsewhere.
I agree with that.